Peppie Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Which alloy is best used for forging press dies? What hardness? Also what product is recommended to coat the dies to help prevent the hot metal from sticking to the dies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Too few details to make a suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 Thomas powers, What Information or details is needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Since this is separated from your press thread and not linked to it. You need to list all the using parameters; for instance: will it be used to do 1 million impressions a year in a 1000 ton press with the dies preheated to 1000 deg F? Or light duty in a small press and you are trying to economize on materials? If you don't tell us; you at least have to take off the Aluminium foil hat so we can try to read your mind... BTAIM H13 is nce as is D2 (D as in die!) Do you have facilities to machine and heat treat high alloy steels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 TY Thomas, yes I have access to a machine shop, and a heat treating co. These dies are for a hydraulic forging press rated at 24 tons. They will be used to form, flatten, and shape hot carbon steel. The run time of the press will be approximately 8-20 hours per week. Dont mind paying for quality material. IMO it is cheaper in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 See how this info focuses the original question so that good answers can be made? I still like H13 for them. (Have you searched on Hot Work Tool Steels any?) I agree for long runs the better steels pay for their upfront cost as well as machining and heat treat with longevity. Me, I'm working on a set of dies for my screw press from stoneworkers bush hammers. I probably want to use well worn ones and the ones I keep finding are "fresh". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Furrer Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Mild steel is just fine for general forging. When they wear replace them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba682 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 On mine Peppie i used a shaft off a shear tooth from a continuous miner and a i cut the web off a railroad track and flattened the track on my belt sander to make combo dies i wish i had access to a good machine shop that did little jobs for a half decent price.I'm lookin at gettin a small mill for doin my own little machining jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 I have alot of 4140,4150,52100, all are in the round form. I guess I can press them square, or rectangle, then send them off to my machinist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I would not use 52100 for dies. It can get brittle, the other alloys have better toughness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJW Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Thanks for the info Gents. I'm still building my small press . I was trying to figure out what to use for my flattening die . I have some 1.5 X 1.5 mild steel bar I think I will use , it's not going to get used to much being this is just a retirement hobby to keep busy not a business, so that should work fine. Plus it's only a 30 ton hydraulic to flatten hot metal " trying to save my shoulder replacement a little wear and tear" . You all have a safe and happy new year ! DJW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba682 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 DJW i use 2''x4'' mild steel for my flat dies nowadays no issues at all and when they wear out there cheap to replace .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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