Cardinal Knife Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Hey guys, I was out in my coupe for about an hour and my lungs are bothering me. I'm using a propane forge with a couple windows open and a set of five 1" holes near the ridge on both sides (there from when it was built) I obviously need to get more air moving thru, but until I get electricity out there I would like some advice on how best to accomplish this. Would a couple roof vents along with the windows open work for now? I understand co2 is heavier so bit skeptical the roof vents will pull the co2 out without some form of forced air. Thanks Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Hmm, Should not have bothered you with that kind of opening. What was in shed before? Have a doctor check you out and have fasting blood test. Sounds like there is more going on. Is this a new forge? Is there any zinc or coated sheet metal in your forge? Worries me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Greetings Cardinal, If you move your LP pig a little closer to your forge you won't have to worry about air quality or for that matter the building not to mention yourself, DAAA Forge on and PYA Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I think what Charlotte say may be right, my work area is smaller than yours with only natural ventilation using a gas forge, and I can be in there no stop for 3or 4 hours no problems.One thing I did get is a CO2 sensor alarm, battery operated and cheap to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnut Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 If you are that worried use something like a carpet blower in a doorway with a welding curtain hanging and weighted to the exhaust to create a positive pressure in the structure. With your windo open there will be no worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 What Jim said is the bigger concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Get the gas tank a safe distance AWAY from the forge even if you have to buy a longer supply hose. Move the forge OUTSIDE and move the anvil just inside the door. Listen to your body and make changes. 4 hours ago, Cardinal Knife said: a set of five 1" holes near the ridge Is this a typo? 5 each one inch holes are not enough to let rain into the building during a hurricane, much less smoke or gasses out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSW Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Glenn said: Is this a typo? 5 each one inch holes are not enough to let rain into the building during a hurricane, much less smoke or gasses out. I doubt it's a typo. You can see the 5 holes in a cross pattern near the top of the top of the peak in his 1st pict. if you look closely. With that simple board construction putting in a gable vent wouldn't be hard at all. Find a nice one that will fit in the stud spacing you have and then simply cut the hole to fit the gable vent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick O Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I would go with what Glenn said this is something you want to address immediately before its to late and also how far away are you from a working electrical outlet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Knife Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 3 hours ago, Charlotte said: Hmm, Should not have bothered you with that kind of opening. What was in shed before? Have a doctor check you out and have fasting blood test. Sounds like there is more going on. Is this a new forge? Is there any zinc or coated sheet metal in your forge? Worries me! Just the galvanized roof, is that bad??? The coupe's been pretty much empty for years. I'm sure it had chickens decades ago but we hosed it out when we acquired the property. All that's in there now is some scrap lumber and some gardening stuff. I don't want to come off as dismissive and I do appreciate your concerns about my well being, but I could feel it getting stuffy in there after about fifteen minutes. Even with the three windows open there wasn't much air flow. No wind here today and no opposing windows for a cross draft. As far as health goes. I exercise 6 days a week and haven't even had cold in years. 13 minutes ago, Glenn said: Get the gas tank a safe distance AWAY from the forge even if you have to buy a longer supply hose. Move the forge OUTSIDE and move the anvil just inside the door. Listen to your body and make changes. Is this a typo? 5 each one inch holes are not enough to let rain into the building during a hurricane, much less smoke or gasses out. Hey Glenn, what is considered a safe distance for the tank. The small holes in the ridge were put in a long time ago, probably for the chickens or something. I was thinking of putting the forge on a sliding table that would slide out the window but not sure if all the moving is safe for the hose. For now I'll do as u recommend and move it outside. 10 minutes ago, Nick O said: I would go with what Glenn said this is something you want to address immediately before its to late and also how far away are you from a working electrical outlet? No electrical in there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Knife Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 7 hours ago, Nick O said: I would go with what Glenn said this is something you want to address immediately before its to late and also how far away are you from a working electrical outlet? Sorry, I get what u mean now, my house is only about fifty feet away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klorinth Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 9 hours ago, Cardinal Knife said: I don't want to come off as dismissive and I do appreciate your concerns about my well being, but I could feel it getting stuffy in there after about fifteen minutes. Even with the three windows open there wasn't much air flow. No wind here today and no opposing windows for a cross draft. As far as health goes. I exercise 6 days a week and haven't even had cold in years. If you were reacting within 15 minutes there is something in that building. If the windows and door were open you should not have a problem with what the forge is producing. As a medical professional, I have to recommend that you get seen by your doctor. An allergic reaction can happen in this way. Although it shouldn't have caused lung discomfort that lasts much beyond the initial reaction. Get seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick O Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Cardinal Knife said: Sorry, I get what u mean now, my house is only about fifty feet away. you could get an extention cord and plug in some box fans to get that bad gas out of you shed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Put the propane tank under the table, simple enugh. I would agree with seeing your MD (or VDM might be parodists of some of us). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Check into the allergies thing. There could be chicken dust in the rafters, molds, bacteria from the dung in the wood, a reaction to the propane fumes, or put your guess here, ________. At 50 feet, I would drop an extension cord and definitely hook up a BIG fan to cross ventilate the building before doing anything inside. This would be AFTER the visit to the MD or as Charles suggests the DVM who could be more helpful in allergic reactions to old buildings. When was the last time you saw a MD working in an old barn? Keep the forge outside until you locate and identify the cause of the reaction. This is a blacksmithing site and not a medical site. Get yourself to a competent medical professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beammeupscotty Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Keep in mind that you can run a propane cooktop or range indoors with little or no ventilation at all. Your lung problem likely has nothing at all to do with the forge and everything to do with the building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Since you dont seem to understand why the tank is a problem, think about if that propane tank vents, where is the escaping gas going? Right now its going to the forge and boom.... get the idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Knife Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 33 minutes ago, Steve Sells said: Since you dont seem to understand why the tank is a problem, think about if that propane tank vents, where is the escaping gas going? Right now its going to the forge and boom.... get the idea? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 just trying to keep you alive a bit longer brother.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Knife Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 59 minutes ago, beammeupscotty said: Keep in mind that you can run a propane cooktop or range indoors with little or no ventilation at all. Your lung problem likely has nothing at all to do with the forge and everything to do with the building. My oven doesn't sound like a rocketship and heat up my kitchen 20 degrees in a matter of 15 minutes. It also is rated for indoor use and has more precision burners designed not to asphyxiate you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Do you folks mean CO2 (carbon dioxide) or CO (carbon monoxide)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Knife Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, Steve Sells said: just trying to keep you alive a bit longer brother.... much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawnJockey Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 You might want to soap the gas line and connectors just to make sure there are no leaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Knife Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 26 minutes ago, LawnJockey said: You might want to soap the gas line and connectors just to make sure there are no leaks. Thanks, I did do this first thing when I got it home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Greetings Cardinal, Glenn.. Steve ,Charles , myself and others just want to see your 3017th post on IFI just to compare it to your first to check your progress.. We rag on ya cause we care. Be safe. Forge on and make beautiful things Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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