Mister Ed Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I recently came across a Hay-Budden blacksmithing anvil. I believe it's ~150 pounds. (There's a 1 -space- 52 stamped on the right side under the company name, etc.) Can someone please post a (complete) range of Hay-Budden serial numbers vs. manufacturing dates? I see several topics asking for the age of a particular serial number anvil, and thought this would be a good place for people to reference if someone has that information handy. I assume Anvils in America has that information available. If someone has a copy that they could look up that information, that would be great. I will post pictures of my anvil as soon as I remove some of the rust. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenforge Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 The number below the logo is the weight. Look on the edge of the base under the horn for a serial number. If you want the whole list of s/n and dates I suggest purchasing a copy of Anvils in America, excellent reading and supports Mr Postmans research efforts. Post pictures we all love the pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Unfortunately this is like asking you to post your credit card numbers and social security and birthdate numbers----We'd like to profit from your hard work... And as it would impinge on the need to purchase a copy of Anvils in America it would violate copyright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Ed Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share Posted June 1, 2014 That makes sense to me, guys. I took photos of the anvil, and can now make out the serial number. It is either 38469 or 39469. Hopefully, someone can tell me what year this was manufactured. This is the only anvil I've ever owned, and I'll probably sell/trade in the future. I have no idea what it's worth, but I don't want someone to take advantage of my lack of knowledge. I did know enough to know that antique anvils are sought after. Any recommendations on how to properly clean it up without decreasing its value? Wire brush and oil? CLR? Pressure washer? It looks like it was rode hard and put away wet, but it is ~100 years old. Thanks for any information you can provide on this anvil. Hay-Burden Anvil, S/N 38469 (or 39469) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 37,000 - 42,000 is listed as being 1898 In reality anvils are not considered *old* till they date earlier than 1800; then they get a premium for age. The reason "non-modern" anvils are sought after is they are often well made compared to many "Anvil Shaped Objects" for sale in recent times. They are also much cheaper than the "good" modern anvils usually at least 1/2 the price of the same size "good" modern one. Location pays a part too; anvils where I live now are 50-100% higher priced than where I used to live. Removal of loose rust and oiling/waxing/linseed oiling. Is generally considered OK PAINTING is NOT---As painting is sometimes used to hide flaws I discount the price of a painted anvil to reflect the risk. Grinding or milling the face is a bad thing to do I generally will not buy an anvil that has had this done to it as it has the capability of destroying it's usability or at least cutting the use life WAY WAY down. I'm more interested in using anvils and so the brand and condition is important to me and not the age! I'd rather have one in great condition that is "recent" than one in poorer condition that was decades earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfudd Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 If you are interested in selling you anvil give us your location and we can give you a better idea of its value. A decent anvil of the size you have will go for 2 to 3 dollars a pound in an anvil poor state like New Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Ed Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 1898 — lots of stuff going on in the West back then requiring massive amounts of iron, railroads, experienced blacksmiths and farriers. It would be nice to see what it was like back then (except for the disease and hardships, of course). Is California (North Bay) considered an "anvil rich" or "anvil poor" area? Does "anvil rich" mean the area has a lot of anvils, and the demand/prices are lower? I am interested in selling it. Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 "Anvil Rich" depends a lot on what the population and industry was like back at that time compared to the population of anvil wanters in our time. So places like Ohio which was thickly settled and had a thriving industrial base have an abundance of anvils (*3* anvil manufacturers!) while NM was fairly light on population back in the day and so light on "native" anvils now. CA is usually a upper end of prices area due to the modern population being much greater than the earlier population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfudd Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 The Bay area seems to have a number of anvils available from time to time but they seem to go for pretty high prices. $3/ lb seems to be about the norm.There is a fellow in Santa Rosa that "sells" his anvils for quite a bit more but I don't think he sells many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Ed Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 I'm new to the anvil-selling situation. Can someone help steer me to some groups in California I can check with? I'd prefer to sell my anvil without palletizing and shipping it if possible. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Ed Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 Someone in the Chat suggested that I list it in the Tailgating section, here: '?do=embed' frameborder='0' data-embedContent>> Hopefully, it can find a new home, and I can find a much smaller ( ≦50 lbs.) farrier/field anvil to straighten horseshoes with. Thanks for all your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Ed Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 Well, my farrier made me a good trade on the anvil. He's going to get me a smaller farrier anvil and trade out some shoeings. I think if it as a horseshoeing "subscription". :) It's a win for both of us. The anvil will be going to his friend's blacksmithing "museum". If possible, I'm hoping to check out his friend's place and post some pictures of some of the old stuff here to share with you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy D Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I ended up here while looking for information about a Hay Budden anvil that I have. It is 150# (stamp says 146) in pretty good condition, Serial number 10759.I live in New Hampshire and would like to know ballpark value for sale. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-1ToolSteel Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Start it out $1000, then drop the price by $50 every week till it is sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 There is a t.f.s. 150 # new anvil for $765, & a Kanka 165# new anvil for $ 989, and an Emerson new 200# anvil for $1,090 And this person wants to sell his used anvil for a suggested $1,000? I guess there may be someone who wants such a "vintage" tool. Are there any pictures for this anvil? Just a mild curiousness. SLAG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy D Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Trying to load pictures, but not having much luck yet. Does anyone know how old it might be? BTW, $1000 wasn't my number - I'm just looking for fair value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkie Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 This was a 2 1/2 year old thread.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-1ToolSteel Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 If you have to know a ball park value, a 150 lb hay budden in good shape usually will sell on Craigslist for $500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy D Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim b Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Got old blacksmith anvil 125 lb serial number A 134066 trying to find out who made it and what it's worth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I've got a used car; what's it worth? Sort of need to know the condition as it could range from scrap rate to prime collecting value. Need to know the country---over 150 countries participate here and anvils range in price in all of them. A good picture of the side and face along with where it's at. (Prices where I live now are up to twice as much as where I used to live and BOTH places are in the USA!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlapper Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 I have a 130lb. Hay Budden anvil serial # a12600 or a13600, I would like to know the age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Drerup Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 What would the age be on my 160 lb hay budden farriers anvil with a serial # 129108? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-1ToolSteel Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1907 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hunt Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Hello All Interesting reading , and It got me Thinking About my Hey Budden 150 lbs , So I wire brushed the SS number ( 7372 ) and I can't find any Info , Anybody have any thoughts ? I just Ordered ( Anvils in America ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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