Admanfrd Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I have a bunch of scrap copper and can justify using it, so I want to melt it down and mold it. Is there a special crucible for copper? Can i make a crucible? Can I put it (the crucible) straight into a coal forge? Should I put glass on top of it? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arftist Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I have a bunch of scrap copper and can justify using it, so I want to melt it down and mold it. Is there a special crucible for copper? Can i make a crucible? Can I put it (the crucible) straight into a coal forge? Should I put glass on top of it? Thank you! Read at least one entire book on casting first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 There was a long thread on this recently; rather than have us spend several hours typing it out again for you; would it be possible for you to use the search function and read it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admanfrd Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 I searched before I asked. Couldn't find anything. Link maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 How about "smelting copper", "Safe way to melt scrap copper" I searched on "copper" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy k Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 You posted this in the "Foundry and Casting" area - have you read thru all the pages of threads "IN" this section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweany Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=copper+melt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Copper is highly prone to porosity, and the more surface area you have the worse it is. Do a lot of reading to see if you want to tackle it. What kind of copper scrap do you have IE; wire, pipe, chunks....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admanfrd Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 Ive looked it up. I have copper pipe that i have cut open, flattened into sheets, then cut up real fine. I just need to know what kind of crucible i need for copper and if i can put the crucible straight into the forge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 You would have been better of leaving intact and just smashing it into a block. By cutting it up really fine you have created a lot of surface area. Scrap dealers pay more for solids than fines/turnings because of that. Scrap wire is also bad for casting, and should be compressed into blocks before melting. At the foundry I worked at we used ceramic, as well as graphite for copper based alloys. I would say a ceramic one going into a fire, as graphite deteriorates fast above 800°F without an inert atmosphere like we used. Good luck, and be safe. BTW, if I remember right we used Lithium as a deoxidizer just before pouring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Special Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 The Dave Gingery books are good, read up first. Try that other site I won't name that talks about casting in the backyard...... Read up on the forums here. Best recommendation, find someone who's done it before....when ya screw up on a forge, ya can get burned. When you screw up on casting, ya can get horribly burned by molten metal, and/or get metal poisoning from inhaling fumes. And the usual warning to beginners, stay away from brass and zinc. Oh yeah, and spend the money and get a good set of crucibles. Don't muck about with making clay crucibles as a beginner. They're tricky to make, you'll damage some in firing them, and don't know what to look for to tell if they're damaged. Plus if all that ain't enough, some types seem to come apart when you melt aluminum in them even if you've done everything right. A good crucible is much cheaper than medical bills. Overall, it's not that casting is so crazy hard, but there's a big learning curve and it's easy for a beginner to get hurt. Better to learn with an experienced friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admanfrd Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Thanks for the book recommendation! I will make sure not to get splashed with molten copper. And yes, zinc fumes are bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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