Historical Question

[pcahrens]

Hello folks, just signed up.

 

My great-great grandfather was a blacksmith in Emporia, KS, 1860's. He brought on a partner in 1867 who had experience from large shops in Michigan in "ironing wagons, carriages and buggies." Anybody know what "ironing" refers to?  Thanks.

 

Paul
 

[Rich Hale]

Not sure where you are at but if you find a museum or place that has wagons or buggies,,visit and look at the metal parts that held them together..all of them forged by a smith,,,most made of iron. 

[DSW]

Hello and welcome.

 

Take a minute and add your location so we have an idea where you are located. It can often help when answering some questions and you never know when a member might just live near by.

[David Einhorn]

(v. t.) To furnish or arm with iron; as, to iron a wagon.

 

It would likely refer to making iron parts for the wagons, carriages and buggies

[flyguy8555]

I think they're referring to putting the iron on the wooden wheels - kinda like the tires, so to speak. They would heat the iron  to expand them, then put them on the wooden wheels; as they cooled, they would contract and tighten down on the wheel.

[Farmall]

Been watching the 'smiths at Colonial Williamsburg "ironing" wagons and artillery carriages for years. The wheelwrights generally "iron" the wheels - put the iron tires on the wheels.....the "smiths make all the metal attaching hardware, axle hangers, etc...next time you have an opportunity, take a close look at a wagon or artillery carriage and look at all the iron on it. I was amazed and how much there was the first time I saw an artillery carriage (was for a 6 pounder) being built.

[pcahrens]

Thanks for the quick replies. Adding iron to the wheels hadn't occured to me.

I live in Corvallis, Oregon.

[swedefiddle]

Ironing a wagon refers to taking the wrinkles out of it, after a wash. :) :) :) LOL

 

Happy New Year,

Neil

 

I know what it means, as what is posted above. But just had to be the Je-k that tried to have some fun :D before someone else did!!

[Frosty]

Welcome aboard Paul, glad to have you. Seems I got beat to the punch . . . line again. Thank you Neil. <grin> Ironing wagons, etc. is making and installing ay of the iron work on/in one.

 

Did you inherit any of your great great Grandfather's tools?

 

I have a step son and newly wedded daughter in law in Madras. Nice country, I really like the obsidian beds between Bend and Burns. someday I'd like to make a knap in. Do they still hold them at or near the Glass Buttes?

 

Frosty The Lucky.

[notownkid]

My first blacksmith experience(IN THE 1950'S) was cranking the blower for a old fellow who restored Carriages and Sleights he re- ironed them there.  Including replacing steps, whip socket holders, dashes, many, many little things that were other wise unobtainable.  He was real good at it and I've wished I'd paid more attention to it, as I get much older and have my own carriages and sleigh. 

[GNJC]

There is a good book by Sturt called the 'Wheelwright's Shop', it is about work in England but the same would have been done by your relative.

 

There was an alternative to a tyre, strakes. Instead of a continouous unbroken circle there would be a number of pieces (usually coinciding with the number of fellows / sections that go to make up the circumference) each covering the joins in the wheel's circumference and pulling the sections tighter as the hot iron contracted. I don't know much about the availability of iron at that time and place, but if it was scarce straking may have been more common than tyring.