Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted July 13, 2010 Author Share Posted July 13, 2010 Just cut a hole in the wall and stick most of it outside! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngdylan Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Just cut a hole in the wall and stick most of it outside! Hey Grant don't joke now, thats the only way I can get my mill and lathe in my matchbox workshop Think I might write an article on surviving in the small workshop for that Baptists website of yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstermetal Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Hey Grant don't joke now, thats the only way I can get my mill and lathe in my matchbox workshop Think I might write an article on surviving in the small workshop for that Baptists website of yours Im gonna think about that picture next time I want to complain about being cramped for space... Man David that looks a wee bit jammed in there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge9001 Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I have a question about power hammers..My shop is small, a 12x12 building with a ceiling of maybe 9 ft. what kind of hammer would be best in such a small space. I know my hand hammer is probably best in that space but is there a maching that would fit in there? with my coal forge, propane forge, anvil, press bender, sander, power hacksaw, and quench tank space gets tight somwetimes buy carpal tunnel has me drooling for a power hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Browne Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Hey Grant don't joke now, thats the only way I can get my mill and lathe in my matchbox workshop Hey, you really weren't kidding. Looks like one of my custom installs...If it doesn't fit, no problem. Nothing that a bigger hammer won't remedy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngdylan Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Im gonna think about that picture next time I want to complain about being cramped for space... Man David that looks a wee bit jammed in there... wee doesn't even begin to describe my workshop:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngdylan Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Hey, you really weren't kidding. Looks like one of my custom installs...If it doesn't fit, no problem. Nothing that a bigger hammer won't remedy! ....or very long crow bars ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Masuk Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Hey Grant don't joke now, thats the only way I can get my mill and lathe in my matchbox workshop Think I might write an article on surviving in the small workshop for that Baptists website of yours This reminds me of when my buddy moved his milling machine into his moms garage and it fell over though the bathroom, breaking a few pipes and tearing out wiring at the same time nearly burning the place down He did get the machine for a really good deal though 300 bucks with some tooling and a vice. I guess this evened everything out lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonjic Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I have a question about power hammers..My shop is small, a 12x12 building with a ceiling of maybe 9 ft. what kind of hammer would be best in such a small space. I know my hand hammer is probably best in that space but is there a maching that would fit in there? with my coal forge, propane forge, anvil, press bender, sander, power hacksaw, and quench tank space gets tight somwetimes buy carpal tunnel has me drooling for a power hammer. The anyang 15 kg (33lb( has a footprint of about 16" x 36" if you want to go the self contained route. Im guessing the I.Kiss 50lb is pretty similar if you want to go 'utility' hammer. Basically either of these will take up less space than a flypress on a stand B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngdylan Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 The anyang 15 kg (33lb( has a footprint of about 16" x 36" if you want to go the self contained route. Im guessing the I.Kiss 50lb is pretty similar if you want to go 'utility' hammer. Basically either of these will take up less space than a flypress on a stand ....but the compressor footprint is? ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonjic Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 ....but the compressor footprint is? ....... learning from yourself david.... either under a workbench or outside in a seperate shed :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstein Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Don't laugh at the power hammer retard, but whats the difference between a utility hammer and self contained? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBower Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 ....but the compressor footprint is? ....... No compressor for the Anyang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 You can put the compressor on the roof! Been in shops in Asia where you had to decide what machine you were going to be using before you went in so you knew which way to face! Almost not an exaggeration! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanWillman Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 ironstein - "utility hammer" refers to a penumatic hammer which depends on an external source of compressed air. Iron Kiss being an example. A "self contained" hammer refers to one that has a "compressor" cylinder built-in - an an yang or some chambersbergs, nazel, etc. So a utility hammer has plumbing for air from a compressor, but likely no electrical connection at all. A self-contained hammer has an electric motor. Obviously, any power hammer or hand hammer has "utility"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngdylan Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 You can put the compressor on the roof! Been in shops in Asia where you had to decide what machine you were going to be using before you went in so you knew which way to face! Almost not an exaggeration! on a pitched slate roof?:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 Just thinking of options, that one is obviously not for you. Up above the rafters maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainely,Bob Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Wait a minute!You already have(at least) TWO pneumatic power hammers and two chipping guns. What are those running off of Mr Smarty Smith? Let`s just assume you don`t got a compressor.You got a hydraulic press,I seen it.Build a hammer like Poleframer made and power it with the same hydraulic pump system that runs your press.Then your can dial in the speed you want too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 basement...water heater shed attached to outside wall...outbuilding...many options to house a compressor. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonjic Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 If young mr Dylan situated his compressor any place outside his workshop he would have to blow into his powerhammers like a man inflating a lilo the next day. Stockport, gotta love it (we once left a press tool weighing seveal hundred kilos in a heavily gated & barbed wire yard outside our old factory, in a similar kinda area to stockport, a few years back. One of the lads suggested putting it inside for the night, gaffer said 'duck it, if they can lift it they can have it..... I honestly thing the smack heads could build a pyramid in double quick time with no power tools if they were rattling and there was a bag of brown at the end of the job ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngdylan Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Wait a minute!You already have(at least) TWO pneumatic power hammers and two chipping guns. What are those running off of Mr Smarty Smith? Let`s just assume you don`t got a compressor.You got a hydraulic press,I seen it.Build a hammer like Poleframer made and power it with the same hydraulic pump system that runs your press.Then your can dial in the speed you want too. two hydraulic presses actually, 30 ton C frame and 15 ton H frame:) I've got a 10hp vane compressor, and it's ...... ....... housed in an old toilet nearby....... needs must ...... I'm sure Grant would appove, easier to maintain than on the roof:) One of the few concessions my landlord has ever given me. Used to be housed under my 8' by 4' workbench. Moving it out made a massive difference to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 If it's any consolation, the problem never goes away. I had the same issues when I had 28,000 square feet of shop on 1 acre of land. How far away from the service do you want to put the 200HP air compressor at $100.00 per foot for the wire, conduit and install? 100 feet away? That's $10,000.00 that you coulda taken home. Ended up nearly 200 feet away! And then you start plumbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 Or when someone "gives" you a hammer and it costs $5,000.00 to take it out and transport it and requires a $40,000.00 foundation? But it was "free"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngdylan Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 ironstein - "utility hammer" refers to a penumatic hammer which depends on an external source of compressed air. Iron Kiss being an example. A "self contained" hammer refers to one that has a "compressor" cylinder built-in - an an yang or some chambersbergs, nazel, etc. So a utility hammer has plumbing for air from a compressor, but likely no electrical connection at all. A self-contained hammer has an electric motor. Obviously, any power hammer or hand hammer has "utility"... kinda odd term really, I always take the word utility to mean services such as gas/water/drains/electricity/maybe air. In that sense a self contained is also a utility hammer. ......and the definition of pedant is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 I believe Chambersburg coined that. They called their little one-piece steam/air hammers "utility hammers". That's my story and I'm sticking to it! No pedantry 'round here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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