confederatemule Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I bought a small Anvil. It came with a home made anvil stand with foot vice, and 10 hand tools for shoeing etc. The anvil is 73lb. I can not make out the words. There are four lines of words above the lb line. I have 28 pictures of the anvil. I would like to show all of them because I do not know which one will be the best for someone to make out the words on. Can I post that many here? Thanks Mule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabbsterinn Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 yea i think that's alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confederatemule Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 Well I tried, but got an error note; "You are not allowed to use that image extension on this community.". I was trying to post a link to a Photobucket folder. Mule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DSW Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 2014-7-25 P7250021_crop.jpg I see some writing above what looks like Sweden in this pict, but can't quite make it out. If you rub chalk over the area, you might be able to bring out the stamping a bit clearer and make it easier to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confederatemule Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 Dabbsterinn, thanks for your quck reply about the images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confederatemule Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 DSW, thanks for the suggestion. I will try the chalk thing, today. I can make out some letters, but not enough to make words. Course, the words may not be any that I am familiar with, nor know how to pronounce, even if they were all clear. I am assuming it is cast steel. It had a nice ring to it. It difinately has not been taken taken care of. Mule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 SOLID STEEL PARAGON SWEDEN nice anvil! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Ivan Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Sodorfors is my guess judging by the feet and curves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confederatemule Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 Thanks, Black Frog and Crazy Ivan. Using y'alls suggestions I got this information from the web site, Blacksmith's Gazette. Anvils in America by Richard Postman. Richard devotes almost three pages to the Paragon anvil, which was made by a Swedish company names Soderfors. The advertisements claim that they are solid forged steel, but Postman feels they are cast steel. He says that it really doesn’t make any difference, because they are excellent anvils. Soderfors has supposedly been making anvils since about 1200 AD; however, he could only find records of the Paragon anvil dating from around 1902 as the oldest and about 1934 as the newest. Soderfors Bruks Akkticbolag was located in Falun, Sweden and exported blacksmith’s , farrier’s, and sawmaker’s anvils to the United States. The number stamped on the anvil would be its actual weight, they didn’t use codes. Paragon Solid Steel Anvils were made in weights from 50 pounds to 450 pounds. They were marked in different ways, come having a crown, some having the image of a raxor, some having the name cast in and some having it stamped on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Ivan Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I'm glad to see someone who after being pointed in the right direction, took the initiative to research the rest themselves and not only that, but share what they found afterwards! Glad I could help. Now put that old girl to work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confederatemule Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 In case any one is curious, I gave $350.00 and drove 175 miles, one way, to get the tools pictured. Mule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Yeah, it's cast not forged. There's still a remanent of the flashing where the halves of the flask joined and there are no handling holes for forging. Not that you couldn't forge an anvil without the holes in the waist I just don't know of an example. I'm a huge fan of Soderfors anvils, (not a shock to the regulars here) they're hard and tough as a politician's heart. Some edge chipping is common, they're very hard so mis-struck blows on the edges can chip them. If they're a problem for you dressing (radiusing) them with a grinder is a good solution if they're not too deep and those look okay for "dressing". Put that beautiful old lady to work, she'll soon be queen of your fleet. Best anvils I've ever used. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabbsterinn Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 i agree with frosty there, i have a söderfors dannemora myself, 120 lbs though, best anvil that I've ever used, im willing to bet that you won't be disappointed with it. like frosty said, just mind the edges, not only will they chip, the chips also fly off at really high speed and they're really sharp, a friend of mine got hit in the neck after his hammer chipped, nasty wound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confederatemule Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Thanks to y'all who helped me out with the anvil. Mule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 TIf you were referring to the CWT system; it is NOT a "code"! It's a weight system just like our ounces and pounds or the metric system's grams and kilograms. It was pretty specific to the UK/commonwealth and to earlier times which helps locate/date some anvils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confederatemule Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 ThomasPowers, what does "Tif" stand for? Also, does "CWT system" mean Counter Weight system? I am not good with initials or what ever they are called. To anyone who might know: Speaking of numbers, what does the 924 stand for? Could there have been a "1" in front of the 9? Making it 1924. What is the meaning of the 11 in front of the weight? What are the numbers on the rear base flange about? I now know where it is from, now I am curious about other details. Thanks Mule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the iron dwarf Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 CWT means hundredweight and is 112 pounds, there are 20 CWT to a ton. a metric ton is 1000kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confederatemule Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Thanks, the iron dwarf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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