burnsy the smithy Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 i found this anvil on ebay and im confused about the two hardy hole that are not square here is the link: This is the html version of the file NICE 58 lb. CAST STEEL Blacksmith BENCH Anvil NR - eBay (item 110358895289 end time Mar-07-09 19:05:00 PST) any feedback would be greatly appreciated thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easilyconfused Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 If you look at the pictures of the hardy holes, I think he means they aren't perfectly square holes. As lon as they're structurally strong, it just means tayloring your tools for that anvil to fit the hardy hole. Something you have to do with most anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Making your hardy tools fit that anvil will get old real quick. Then when you get a another anvil your going to have a bunch of hardy tools that dont fit it cause you mod'd them to fit that oddball anvil. So unless you can get that dirt cheap and pick it up to save shipping I would say pass on that anvil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnsy the smithy Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 but why the two hardies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I hope its not a ASO. That thick plate on top raises questions in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 many good brands are multi piece, peter wright for one. some good brands were even 5 pieces welded up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navren scafidi Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) but why the two hardies the two hardi holes are for useing multiple tools at once, ex table hardies and or benders of some kind;) mines just like it and yes the odd shaped holes are a HUGE PAIN IN THE WRONG PLACE, especialy when you have to make a new tool for a special jop Edited March 5, 2009 by navren scafidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnsy the smithy Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 can i file the hardi to a better shape? thanks so much for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnsy the smithy Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 does everyone think this would be a decent anvil for a beginner? i know the weight is light and the hardy shapes but it is in great shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orgtwister Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 i would just like to know were this guy on ebay has goten all theses anvils hes been sellling for the last few months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrous Beuler Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 That is a quirky looking anvil. Never seen an odd sized face like that. It seems someone created another hardy hole where the pritchel hole was, why? who knows. If it is not cast iron it wouldn't be bad if it was REAL cheap. What do you plan to do with it? For general smithing it is a very light anvil. I wouldn't waste my time on this doorstop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnsy the smithy Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 can i file the hardi more square? or will it be to hard if infact its a quality anvil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverDamForge Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 According to Elmer Roush, hardy tools should be made to fit a particular anvil, and marked (centerpunch) for orientation so you put them in the same way each time. IOW they should not be a sloppy fit. Or you might try this approach:http://www.iforgeiron.com/forum/f7/hotcut-hardy-10062/ You could modify those easily when you get a different anvil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip in china Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Re. Filing the hardy hole the answer is yes and no. If the anvil is soft, and therefore worthless, yes you could file it. It would be a huge amount of work and you would have a useless anvil with a square hole. You could keep it near your real anvil just to keep a hardy in but it hardly seems worth the trouble. If it is a properly hardened anvil (which frankly I doubt) then you will wear out a lot of files before you make any serious difference. Even if you cost your time in at minimum wage I think it would be cheaper just to buy a decent anvil in the first place! There are plenty of well made, proper sized anvils out there. Pass on this one and let somebody who wants an ornament for the garden have it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 +1 to Philip's suggestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnsy the smithy Posted March 6, 2009 Author Share Posted March 6, 2009 the seller tells me that the rebound on the anvil is better then all the vulcan anvils hes sold but you all really think that its a aso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 way to many red flags im with aso all the way, but im im far from being an anvil expert. 1 Look at the base, Compared to real anvils in the back ground, it looks like they ran out of steel, but they didnt as it looks like it was cast in 2 parts and joined at the waste. Poor, ugly base. 2 Look closely at the 8th picture with the two hardy holes, the edge seems mushromed or dented and the dent is sticking up, which leads me to believe that it tipped on another anvil, Which leads me to believe the face is not hardend at all because anvils dont dent like nails. 3 the 2 hardy holes look cast , is that a casting flaw in the 7th picture? the inside corner looks like there is a small lip. 4 its brand new and it looks just like the old ones in the back ground. 5 the last picture. Looks like the face is not even centered and there is a big chip on the left side of the face, about1/4 inch from the surface? Usually the chips are on the top corners of the face, Which leads me to believe it was an air bubble trapped in a cheap casting.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnsy the smithy Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 thank you all very much for the help I will pass on the anvil i might buy his beat up vulcan anvil but i have my trusty rr rail i love the forum thanks again!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogvalley Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Its my 2 cents that someone simply enlarged the pritchell hole on a soft faced anvil. Yup, pass on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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