Iron Hand

[George N. M.]

I guess this is the most appropriate topic for this.  I still think we need a Historical Ironwork topic for old, non-blade, iron work, e.g. grates, hinges, locks, sculpture, etc..

Here is a link to an article on a 15th century prosthetic iron hand found in Bavaria:

https://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/68609

I find it interesting that iron was the material of choice for prothetics, particularly non-articulated ones.  If it was non-functional I would have thought that something like painted leather would have been a better choice.  Maybe leather would not have been resistant enough for things like looping reins over it or holding down paper while writing.  It does appear that this man had all or part of his thumb which needed something fairly solid to articulate against.

"By hammer and hand all arts do stand."

[Frosty]

Thanks for the link George it's a great way to start the day! A search for "Medeival prosthetic hands" hit on images. One is of a knight's Goetz Iron Hand (something similar anyway) in tact prosthetic. 

Very interesting subject and there's quite a bit out there. 

Frosty The Lucky.

[Scott NC]

  Can you imagine a cannon ball blowing your hand off?

[JHCC]

On 10/28/2023 at 9:50 AM, George N. M. said:

I find it interesting that iron was the material of choice for prothetics, particularly non-articulated ones.  If it was non-functional I would have thought that something like painted leather would have been a better choice.

The prosthetic hand of Jean Danjou (the most cherished artifact of the French Foreign Legion) was made of wood by Danjou himself. One wonders what he used as a hand while making his hand.

6 minutes ago, Scott NC said:

  Can you imagine a cannon ball blowing your hand off?

Yes, because I have a very active imagination (and have sustained my fair share of rather painful injuries). 

[Scott NC]

  I think I might join the French Foreign Legion.  Is it still active?  I have ridden a camel once in North Africa (Morroco).

[JHCC]

Yes, it is. I was just watching a documentary about it the other day, following a group of recruits through intake and basic training and another group going through their notoriously difficult jungle warfare training course in French Guiana. The instructor for the latter group was a particularly interesting character. 

[Scott NC]

  I love adventure.  I think maybe if I was younger I would actualy try something like that.  Right before I got out of the Navy I was offered to go to the Seals but I had to run back home instead.  I know, a voice on the internet.  What was the documentary?

[George N. M.]

Yes, the Legion Etrangere (Foreign Legion) is till an active part of the French armed forces.  Here is a link to a You Tube video of a detachment on parade in Paris a few years ago.  The guys with the axes and leather aprons are the pioneers who traditionally lead the assault to cut a way through the obstacles for the infantry.  They always lead in parades.  Also, pioneers tradionally wear beards.

 

[Scott NC]

  I am going to do some actual research on this before I reply.  Thanks to you both.  I have some preconceived notions I think.

[Irondragon Forge ClayWorks]

I loved the story Beau Geste 1939 film about the French Foreign Legion.

I can't control the wind, all I can do is adjust my sail’s.
Semper Paratus

 

[Daswulf]

I don't know why, this made me think of inspector Kemp from Young Frankenstein. 

[JHCC]

Which in turn reminds me of this photo that blacksmith Kim Thomas posted on Facebook on Halloween:

(This would be the moment that all of my stringed-instrument-playing friends start cringing at Kim's bow grip.)

16 hours ago, Scott NC said:

What was the documentary?

Here you go.

[Scott NC]

  Thank you John.  I'll have to pass on something like that.  The old grey mule just ain't what he used to be.  It was fun to warch though.

On 11/2/2023 at 8:32 AM, Daswulf said:

I don't know why, this made me think of inspector Kemp from Young Frankenstein. 

  I love how he lights his cigar.  There was a movie once where the actor stuck a knife in his wooden leg to hold it, while peeling and eating apples.

[Frosty]

Treasure Island I believe.

Frosty The Lucky.

[Scott NC]

Jim Hawkins would most likely make a fine shop apprentice. 

[Daswulf]

I had a friend with a fake leg that would kid around at the bar with strangers and stick a knife in his fake leg. He was a truly kind and fun guy. He passed many years ago.  

[JHCC]

I'm thinking about offering a one-handed friend to make her a prosthesis to hold a crochet hook, to replace her current arrangement of a sock, a ruler, and some duct tape.

[Frosty]

Beating duct tape is a touch challenge!

Frosty The Lucky.

[George N. M.]

I have a vision of a very macho, assertive iron hand holding a very delicate, feminine crochet hook.  Maybe interchangable with a knitting needle or lace making tools.

GNM

[Frosty]

I was seeing interchangeable hook and needle fingers. Edwena Crochet Hook Hands. 

You know George your thought brings another vision to me. A titanium HULK hand holding the hooks and needles.

This is getting fun!

Frosty The Lucky.

[Scott NC]

  Forged prosthetic hand attachment's offer a lot of possibilities, both practical and outrageous.  Discussion could get out of hand.

  Dad had a friend who had a glass eye and he told some slightly dubious tales.  He said it was ultimately lost in a poker game.

[Frosty]

An Off Hand, remark Scott? 

One of the guys in high school had a glass eye and he'd take it out to creep people out. The glass eye wasn't so bad but when he'd open his left eye the empty socket was . . . the memory still creeps me out.

Frosty The Lucky.

[JHCC]

The late actor Peter Falk wore a glass eye from childhood onwards. Once, after getting called out sliding into third during a high school baseball game, he took his eye out, handed it to the umpire, and said, "Here, you need this more than I do!"

[Scott NC]

  I haven't read it in years but Mark Twain wrote a short story called "The Ram" where he described a character that had a glass eye that rotated around in his socket while he was talking.  As I recall it was fun story.

[Scott NC]

  I went back and reviewed that story and it was a woman with a glass eye and it was too small.  She tried packing it with cotton to keep it from falling out but the cotton hung out and put people off.