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Could this be water hardening?

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I got these machine blades (I think they're for a large plainer) and made a cleaver. I tried hardening in oil but a file bites into it with no problem. Does anyone have any experience with blades like this? Should I try quenching in water?

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You have plenty of stock there make some test coupons and test it. 

Frosty Pro tip. Test mystery steel BEFORE making a blade from it. That way you'll know what it needs or if it's even suitable for a blade before putting in the effort of forging one to maybe end up hanging it on the DRATS!! wall. 

I like your cleaver's profile. I look forward to seeing the finished pics.

Frosty The Lucky.

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I've never played with water hardening steel. If it hardens do I temper it the same way? 

I will try it on a test piece as suggested

Looks like the company is still in business, drop them a line and ask what they use.

Determining how to temper mystery steel is part of the test process. There are so many different kinds of steels being made there isn't a A way to temper a general type like oil or water quench. 

Bigguns suggestion of contacting the company is a good one, once you know what it is and who made it the information is almost always available on the manufacturer's website. 

Frosty The Lucky.

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Waiting on an answer from the company but I did make a ticket and tried water hardening it. A file bit into it better than mild steel and I bent it 90 degrees and back to straight with no cracking..... I'm thinking this was bad steel for a cleaver!  

My next idea was to forge weld some spring steel for the cutting edge. It was going good until I melted it. So now be in the watch for a new cleaver. 

You could draw the handle way out and make up stories about it being an Outer Smerdegian whip chopper.

I vote for different steel. I'll be watching for your next presentation.

Frosty The Lucky.

What alloy they used will probably have changed over the years as well; unless you can lock in on a date it might be a range.

Machine knives that bent after water quenching---only thing I can think of would be a boron alloy.

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