Charles R. Stevens Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Two little boys, 3/4 Saan and 1/4 Nubian. Sandy is already planning on how to save them from the dinner table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 You can always eat em for lunch. Pnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 I aggree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyGoatLady Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Aww thanks Charles! I do love those babies. I don't have any babies right now. I've got one young wether that's gonna find his way to the table sooner rather than later if he keeps jumping the fence and getting stuck. Plus, he's honary as " you know what". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, CrazyGoatLady said: Plus, he's honary as " you know what" HORNARY? . . . A WETHER?! . . . Nevermind I don't want to get in trouble. I love goat kids, even pics of other people's kids. Sanan Nubian crosses will be meaty goodness on the cloven hoof. You can sell tickets once they start spronking around. I really miss kidding season. <sigh> One of the best things about raising goats is. You don't get in trouble for selling or eating your problem kids. Goat takes the flavor of smoke better than any meat I've sampled Smoked spronker, Mmmmmmmmm. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyGoatLady Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Maybe I spelled it wrong. Ornery maybe!? But those wethers stil think they are bucks sometimes you know There are some Nigerian dwarfs down the way from us. The other day I was driving by and the two little bitty kids were standing on mama's back. It was the cutest thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 Yes sir! A rub of half good chili powder (clover valley from Dollar General is pretty good) and half sugar is a good start! I brine the pigs with sugar and old-bay as well. I use stock salt from the feed store 99.9% pure, no iodine or flowing agents to cloud up the brine for pickles. Make you a deal on that weather; Sandy might let me eat him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozzy Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Goat makes great meat for Mongolian Hot Pot meals too--sliced really thin. But I can't--I just love the little buggers too much. After a few years of raising farm animals, I got to the point where I am 99.5% vegetarian these days. Only 3 pygmy goats right now but dang, they are never in a bad mood and always happy to see me. If I could just get them to mow the lawns instead of the stuff I want to keep.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Deb raised Pygmies and though they're technically meat goats I'd probably shun anybody who raised them for meat. Not 3rd. worlders, you're allowed to feed yourself and yours. The pygmies were my favorite livestock ever. Like you say, always happy to see you, never in a bad mood, always mischievous and playful. If you follow the #1 Deb or I WILL yell at you for violating it, rule is NEVER play head games with goats! Never push on their heads! Sure they love the game but you're teaching them to butt. Pygmies only reach knee height so if you teach or allow butting the playful little kegs on legs WILL butt you in the knees. Imagine a 50lb. solid bone head hits you in the knees doing say 20-25mph. Oh yes, they can hit top end in two lunges, say under 10'. NO butting games but some things satisfy their instinctive need to show affection by butting without the danger. They will rub with their heads but you have to be careful to never let it go ANY farther say pushing, even gently. We'd go out to the pasture and sit on one of the cable spools and get swarmed by pygmies, especially kids. One discovered WE liked being head rubbed on the back and taught the other kids. We'd go out, sit down and get world class back rubs. Frosty The Lucky. The first pic is Libby, the Pyr and the bucks. We rescued Libby from a terrible situation and she made a terrific guardian dog. There was one thing we could've become millionaires from if we could've figured it out. Libby smelled GOOD, not clean dog I mean pleasant. Just washed or loving on rutting bucks she smelled just like herself, GOOD. This is Libby and Chili at 5 wks. Seeing goat kids standing on their dogs is nothing unusual but Chili liked riding Libby around the pasture and sometimes I think Libby was trained to voice command. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 Truth of the head games. I always handle them behind the horns. Slaughtering time is hard as I have to become some one I don’t like much to kill the critters. Don’t matter if it’s a chicken, pig, goat, rabbit or what ever. Heck I even tear up if I take them in to the prossesor. I remember a british survival instructor telling me “if your going to get amorous with Mother Nature, you beter bring protection. She likes her subjects to die horable deaths, they either freeze to death, starve to death or get eaten alive”. Add to that seeing pigs and chickens raised in barns and cattle feed lots, I figure my animals get better lives and cleaner deaths than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Charles R. Stevens said: I figure my animals get better lives and cleaner deaths than most. That's always been my view too. If you raise meat you know they only had one bad day versus feed lot and large commercial operation animals had whole life of stress. There's a reason it's illegal in some states to take a picture of a commercial feedlot. I too don'treally have it in me to hunt or fish or even kill a chicken really anymore. I guess that means I shouldn't be eating meat if I'm not willing to harvest it anymore. Pnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozzy Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 I'm no vegetarian zealot and still bend for meat once in a while. It's just after not eating it for a while, it becomes a lot less appealing and unimportant. A good ham sandwich once in a long while is enough to remind me that I'm not really missing anything all that important. I've mostly gotten away from animals and won't replace the goats when they reach their normal end. However, seeing the cows develop personalities and relationships and even play..heck, even the chickens developed relationships and had personalities, it was easier to see that meat just wasn't that big a deal to me relative to the pleasure live critters give me. But I've been craving a really top quality steak of late so I'll probably bend and have one. Haven't had red meat for a few years now so we'll see if it's worth the hassle. Some goat porn: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 I was a vegetarian for quite a few years and when I started to eat meat again it was not easy on the digestive system at all. Pnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 As I have mental health issues, and rather enjoy bacon and other Charcuterie being a vegetarian isn’t an option. Their are certain nutrients one can’t get enough from plants. I was blessed buy a mother who fed me a well rounded diet with plenty of fruit and vegetables. Not hard at all for me to eat 3/4 or more of my intake of plants material. Luckily eggs and dairy fits the bill well from the nutrition point and goats milk side steps a lot of the issues folk have with cows milk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyGoatLady Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Tommie is the same way when it comes to slaughtering. He doesn't like it either. I don't do any of that myself but I would if it was mine to do. We make sure that any animal or bird we raise has the greatest quality of life we can give them no matter what their destination is. They deserve it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Our meat animals didn't even have a bad last day, even the chickens only had a brief moment of a bad ride. Quick and clean was the rule. Switching from an omnivorous diet to vegetarian is pretty seamless once you figure out how to make up for the less concentrated nutrition. Switching from vegetarian to omnivorous on the other hand can cause distress if you don't take it gradually. Switching from beef to moose can cause similar distress, moose is at least 2x the nutrition of domesticated meat. You REALLY might want to ease into a steak after a few years without meat Kozzy. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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