Peppie Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Thought I would share this build with ya all. After much research, and some great advice from some very trusted members here, I have decided to build a floor mounted ribbon burner forge. Total inside cubic in ( after wool,and refactory) will be approx 400 cubic in. The burner will have approximately 20-24 ports (crayon diam) 3" X 8". Fed by 2" pipe. Air supplied by a kiddies bounce house blower. Two layers of 1" X 8# X 2600 degree ceramic wool. 1/2" Mizzou refactory, and then plistix 900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey98118 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Nice looking "D" forge.You might want to increase the size of both openings, to keep the shell away from hot exhaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 The back one is 2 1/2 X 4, the front is 4 X 6. What size would you suggest? I sized them based on work fitting in and out. I have a forced air forge that has a small opening in the front, doesn't seem to make the shell hot enough to do any damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey98118 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I would suggest the opening sizes you already choose, for your REFRACTORY openings, with your steel shell kept another inch away from those openings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 TY Mikey98118, Not to late to adjust. Easy fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey98118 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Yes; its an easy fix now, but would be a sad mess later With the burner and forge designs coming on line these days, yesterdays little booboos aren't any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 Had some time in the shop today. Almost finished with the door guides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 Fab work completed. Ready for paint. Wanted a soft self closing door. Got all the bugs worked out. 20190427_142532.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey98118 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Smooth working; I like it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 TY Mikey, I also enlarged the front pigeon hole, and fabed a small hood for it. Still need to make the rear door a bit larger....maybe. It is only there for a pass thru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted May 5, 2019 Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 Had some time to work on the new forge. Has a few coats of high temp paint. Installed 2 , 1" layers of wool. Fabbed up the floor/stand. Next will be the insulation for the floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 Got the base bricked, and refractory spread. Fabbed the ribbon burner. Coated the door and the back of the forge body, before I ran out of gas for the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedar Crest Forge Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Nice forge. What kind of tank(s) do you need to keep this 24 port 2 inch diameter forge running all day ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 I have a 100lb tank, with a 40lb back up. One of the advantages of a ribbon burner is the ability to run the burner at a lower psi in turn using less fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey98118 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Considerably less fuel than most homemade burners; not all, but they are the best path for the average newbie. But, as I've been saying for twenty years, there is no such thing as the best burner (or the best forge) for every use. No one shoe fits all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 I'm just waiting to see your forge running Peppie. I have a two ribbon burner forge as seen in NARB lives thread and it'll run longer than I want to work at the anvil on a 40 lb. tank without freezing it, call it 6 hrs. It doesn't even cool the 100 lb. shop tank enough to form condensation. Frosty The Lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 Frosty, It will be a few weeks before I can lite it up. Wife has me boxed into to a honey-do list. She bought new furniture, and I have a crap load of painting to do just so the color of the new pillows dont clash with the walls.. Go figure?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 Pulled the burner out of the mold today. Looks great. I used Bic Pen Blanks for the ports.I used toilet bowl wax ring on the form for a easy release agent. I thought it best to angle the ports a bit so the flame wasn't pointing directly on the side of the forge. Got some heat cycling to do next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Looking good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 TY JHCC Got her all plumbed in, and setting on its permanent home. Been doing some short low temp burns, after I baked the burner in the wife's oven for a few hours. Shhhhhhhh. Going to slowly increase the temp and burn time for two more day before turn the inside a nice orange ish white. I will post up a video of the swirl soon. How far off the burner block should the flame be? 1/4"? 1/2"? 1" ? Looking for that sweet spot. 20190524_185226.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 After a number of heat cycles, I brought this forge up to full temp today. OMG!! I am very pleased with how it came out, and more so on how it work. I waited until darkness fell to film this to get a better view of the fuel rich swirl. Tuning is a breeze with the gate valve, and the needle valve. This thing ROARS! 20190526_213117.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey98118 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 The design seems to be a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Mikey, I believe so. Today I welded up a 4"x2"x2", 12 layer Damascus billet. All went well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Cool forge. Were you able to tweak your air and fuel to get the flame to contact the burner head? I think I need to find one of those blowers for mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Paragon, Yes I can control the gas with the regulator, a long with a needle valve. The air is adjustable via a gate valve. My understanding is the flame should not touch the burner head. Keeping the casting cooler. Am I out in left feild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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