Dillion Brian Grant Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Ok so I am currently considering getting a second forge since currently I only have a JABOD forge so,I,have been looking,at this one and was wondering if anybody knows much about this brand Here are the product detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherViking Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Quite a lot of money for all you get. Cheaper to make your own. The ceramic fibre comes uncoated, and a friend who has one has a lot of trouble getting both burners going at the same time. Lack of front/back door also wastes a lot of heat. All in all, not great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillion Brian Grant Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 I realize that it isnt the best, and as far as the doors, my plan is to make some since I'm pretty good at welding, also, how,much does the stuff to,coat it usually cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timgunn1962 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I've not used their forges, but I bought one of their burners out of curiosity and found it to be remarkably good. I was not impressed by the need to push the hose over a plain tube. With O-clips it works well enough, but is somewhat inelegant. That was my only gripe. The DF... series burners have a threaded choke adjustment which makes mixture/temperature control a breeze. It's fine enough to hold accurate Heat-Treat temperatures for steels that need a soak when used in a reasonably well-designed HT forge. Their DFProf... series burners seem to have a sliding choke. I have not used one but I'd expect it to be anywhere near as controllable as the DF... With the likes of Wayne Coe able to supply realistic quantities of the better forge building materials in the US, I'd definitely recommend building the forge yourself. If you would rather buy a burner than make one, you could do a lot worse than the DF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillion Brian Grant Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Well then what about these two? I would build,my own but my,dads against the idea,of doing that lol, And my plan is to pile,fire bricks in front of and behind the forges Btw yes the fiber is,presealed on both of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedCustoms Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Dillon, the fiber cloth in those photos is not "sealed". If the advertiser is claiming it is sealed and safe to use as is well...... those photos show un coated fiber cloth. You could make either of those set ups work but you will still have to purchase rigidizer and a reflective coating. If you haven't already you should do a LOT of reading on the building a gas forge section here on IFI. Also check out Wayne Coe Artist Blacksmith website. Wayne is a member here and sells all the coatings you will need to safely run one of those forges. There are a few manufacturers who sell coated, ready to go right out of the box forges and none of them are near the prices of the models you posted. $600.00 to $1000.00 USD will get you a good, efficient and safe forge without you having to do anything except turn it on. You can get the same performance for about half the money by reading, ordering the appropriate materials and doing a little of the additional work those less expensive forges will require. I bought a Whisper Mamma two burner for $500.00 delivered and I still had to rigidize and coat the lining to ensure I wouldn't be breathing the evil little no see um floaties that will go airborne when that cloth heats up. You don't want that stuff in your lungs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillion Brian Grant Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 First off yes I am constantly reading the stuff about the forges on here, and Well how,do u tell of it is coated, because to,me those,forges seem like they are coated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneCoeArtistBlacksmith Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Dillon, check out the Build a Gas Forge attachment on the Forge Supplies page of my web-site. You can get my url and other contact info on my Profile. I think that we here at IFI have previously discussed these forges. The fire brick is a heat sink, even if the blanket is coated (which it does not appear to be) you will be constantly be repairing the interior. Without a cast interior you will poke holes in the sides almost every time you put metal in or out of the forge. The hose does not appear to be acceptable for Propane. If your dad would like to talk to me regarding building a forge ask him to call me. Let me know if I can help you. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey98118 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Two years back I gave hesitant approval of their cheapest forge--for the cost; since then, they have been doing everything possible to raise their prices. They have reached the point where none if their products are worth the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Mikey98118 said: Two years back I gave hesitant approval of their cheapest forge--for the cost; since then, they have been doing everything possible to raise their prices. They have reached the point where none if their products are worth the money. Wow, I hadn't looked since then. They were marginally worth it if you didn't mind finishing them properly. Rigidize and hard flame face. Now? Holy Moly popularity seems to have driven them completely beyond reason. Want to bet Forged in Fire has something to do with entry level forges? We'll be more than happy to help you put one together. The reg and hose being the most expensive part. Wayne has the fiddly bits. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillion Brian Grant Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 On 4/22/2018 at 8:14 PM, WayneCoeArtistBlacksmith said: Dillon, check out the Build a Gas Forge attachment on the Forge Supplies page of my web-site. You can get my url and other contact info on my Profile. I think that we here at IFI have previously discussed these forges. The fire brick is a heat sink, even if the blanket is coated (which it does not appear to be) you will be constantly be repairing the interior. Without a cast interior you will poke holes in the sides almost every time you put metal in or out of the forge. The hose does not appear to be acceptable for Propane. If your dad would like to talk to me regarding building a forge ask him to call me. Let me know if I can help you. Wayne believe me I want to build,my own the issue is my dad doesn't believe that those forges aren't coated already he thinks they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillion Brian Grant Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 Ok so, if I bout one of those forges and bout some of rigidizer would that be enough? Also how,much would I need if I decided to get the devils forge? Or,better yet, what exactly wpuld,I need to,get to make it work for me,long term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillion Brian Grant Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 OK so I spent close to an hour talking,to wayne, btw thanks alot for the advice, anywyas I decided that I'm going to build my own propane forge from an old 20# propane tank, and I'm gonna use frostys t burner design so it is gonna be slow but ill post pics throughout the process thanks for all the help and support everybody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Give me a shout if you need a hand. If you have a drill press T burners are silly easy to make. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillion Brian Grant Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 Yup I have a drill press, I love that thing to lol that's the thing I love about them is the simplicity of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillion Brian Grant Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 So I was wondering, seeing how like i said thanks to the help,from wayne the other day I'm going to be making a propane forge using an empty propane tank I was wondering, since I'm intending to post pics of my bottles journey from bottle to forge should I just post them,on here or would it be best for me,to post them in a new topic all together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 It would be best to start a new thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillion Brian Grant Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Irondragon Forge & Clay said: It would be best to start a new thread. Ok thanks a lot, I thought that would be best bart wanted to,make sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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