Revtor Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Hey guys, I'm finally going to get out there and forge a few knives (attempt it at least). I have some mild steel to play around with so I can get my shapes right, but after that I want to use something good that will harden up and also be semi-corrosion-resistant. (Not full stainless in other words) The kinfe is going to be a small EDC type, 3" blade, I will be forging it. So my question is what would you recommend as a forgiving steel that is a bit more corrosion resistant than the average carbon steel? thanks a lot, hope to post some pics in the coming weeks. ~Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 First thing I will suggest is that you "play around with" a medium to high carbon steel.They work differently than mild steel and so you are training your "habits" on something with different properties. Sort of like training yourself for mudbogging by driving only on snow...As such I advise aspiring bladesmiths to start by taking an automotive coil spring and cutting it across the coils into thirds or halves to get a bunch of "(" shaped pieces all the same alloy. This can then be used to train yourself hammering and shaping a "knife grade" steel; while still being inexpensive. You can also experiment on heat treating and testing to destruction. Learning 1 knife grade alloy thoroughly makes learning others easier."Knife grade stainless" and "forgiving steel" tend to be contradictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccustomknives Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Typically steels that carry enough chromium to be corrosion resistant aren't for the entry level smith. They are much too fickle with forge temps and heat treating. If you want stainless, or simi-stainless get some flat stock and do it by stock removal or get some planer blades and work it hard. For a newbie forging blades, most of us will recommend 1080 or 5160. I should clarify, if you buy stainless or d-2 flat stock you'll need to send it to be heat treated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revtor Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Okay some great adivse there... I have a few old files I could anneal and a few old cold chisels and punches I could work with to get a feel for real knife grade steel. Ill keep my eyes out for an old leaf spring or coil. thanks! ~Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccustomknives Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Some old files can make great knives. If heat treating is going to be an issue you can work the file hard (gotta keep it cool) and temper to get it to a good hardness for a knife. Black Diamonds and Nicholsons are always going to be good steel, everything else is a crap shoot. A late model leaf spring will make a bunch of knives, and the steel is typically some version of 5160. Those springs should be easy to get. Drop by a scrap yard, talk to the manager. Tell him what you want, he'll probably give you one. Be sure to thank him with the first knife. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakersteve Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Why dont you just buy a known steel, like 1084 from Aldo at NJ steel baron. It takes a lot of guess work out of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revtor Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Steve, I will do that eventually of course. I was asking for suggestions. Your suggestion is 1084 -Thanks! ~Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I'd say his suggestion is to start with a known good steel of which 1084 is one; and Aldo is a known good steel provider! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revtor Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 I will be seeing Aldo! I live a town away from his location. . thanks again, I will be posting pics whenever I can get to forging. ~Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 maybe if you find time, you could read the knife making series here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revtor Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Thanks Steve, I have a few books and have read a lot about it, just wanted some ideas on the variety of steels out there. Looks like I will most likely get some 1084 and be done with it. ~Steve (lots of Steves in this thread!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 ya dont have to be named Steve to make blades, but it does help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhartironwerks Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Good thing I don't live close to Aldo. My bank account would be lower than it is, and I'd have to make up some stories to she-who-writes-the checks. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 but grearheart... you do have security steel out there, they deal mainly in 5160 and 1084 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormcrow Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 1084 is a good blade steel in general, not just for a beginner. But the heat treatment is so simple with such good results with 1084 that it gets suggested for beginners a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhartironwerks Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 but grearheart... you do have security steel out there, they deal mainly in 5160 and 1084 :) No SS here. We have Pacific Machine and Tool Steel Co. in Portland that deals with O1, 5160, 1095, and 1065, and a host of other tool steels. A 9' piece of 3/16 x 1.5 of 1095 is $38.16. 1/4 x 1.5 x 20 of 1065 hr plow is $31.90 ea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revtor Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Hey guys, well we had a few days of nice weather and motivation was high so I pounded out some mild steel... My first time at an anvil for more than two minutes and my first time at a 2x72 belt! I will get my hands on some "real" steel soon but in the mean time enjoy some pics of my journey starting at 12" x 1" x .250 ..... Not sure how to post a link to the album so Ill try a few ways... ~Steve that werent it, bad attempt at linking removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revtor Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Okay well then here's the link: http://s83.photobucket.com/user/srmaietta/library/first%20knife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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