March 25, 201412 yr Definitely a forged anvil, done by the built up method. Not related to John Norris of "Fisher and Norris". He was a financier who backed the early venture of Fisher in Trenton.
March 25, 201412 yr I've heard of them being canted up so they would "droop straight" during a long life; but that is rather extreme.
March 26, 201412 yr NORRISEZ with what appears an overlaid larger 'N' centered on the name They are a less commonly found forged anvil made in England. More have turned up in Canada than in the USA. Most likely had a good dealer up that way.
March 26, 201412 yr Author yes sir 101 , you are correct, Norrisez it is ............it came home with me tonight.......51lbs and I'm really happy with this find........ I also came home with a 17lb wrought I'll post pics tomorrow after it gets a quick wire wheel for markings (hopefully)............
March 26, 201412 yr Author a couple more pics...........the little guy is looking Hay Budden but I'm not 100 % yet..........any guess's ? my wife isnt crazy about it on the dining room table but............. :rolleyes: met a real great guy yesterday , he also had a 300lb PW that looks like it came out of a showroom , it was beautiful just to sit and stare at it ....................
March 26, 201412 yr Take and put up a photo of the other side of the small anvil. That is where the markings would be. Also the front base under the horn.
March 27, 201412 yr Both of them are nice finds, congrats on finding them. The smaller one appears cast, very possibly a Samson given the similarity of the pattern to the 20 lb. one in these pictures. They rarely have markings left because they stamped their logo on the cutting table. Tim South Shore smith was the first to find one marked that I know of. You can see just a bit of CLEVELAND and the edge of the diamond in the (5) picture. A couple consistent characteristics you can check for are a relieved working edge as much as 1/3 of the way back from the front, and the pritchel hole aligned behind the hardy hole. The catalog page shows the whole diamond logo of Van Wagoner & Williams Hdwe. "SAMSON" Cleveland, OH, but I have not seen one marked on the side as the illustration. The profile and blocky square feet of the anvil in the catalog illustration is remarkably accurate to the profile of real Samson anvils.
March 27, 201412 yr Ahh yeah now I think I have dropped the hay buddon idea. The photos of the Samson you shared have changed my mind.
March 27, 201412 yr Author Both of them are nice finds, congrats on finding them. The smaller one appears cast, very possibly a Samson given the similarity of the pattern to the 20 lb. one in these pictures. They rarely have markings left because they stamped their logo on the cutting table. Tim South Shore smith was the first to find one marked that I know of. You can see just a bit of CLEVELAND and the edge of the diamond in the (5) picture. A couple consistent characteristics you can check for are a relieved working edge as much as 1/3 of the way back from the front, and the pritchel hole aligned behind the hardy hole. The catalog page shows the whole diamond logo of Van Wagoner & Williams Hdwe. "SAMSON" Cleveland, OH, but I have not seen one marked on the side as the illustration. The profile and blocky square feet of the anvil in the catalog illustration is remarkably accurate to the profile of real Samson anvils. Excellent info 101HB , really appreciate that !! thank you...........I think your bang on , sure looks the same as mine , I'm going to have a closer look right now on the cutting table........
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