Mrhappybottms Posted April 25, 2012 Posted April 25, 2012 I was wondering if i use charcoal and not coal (since i can't really get ahold of good coal) if it burns cleaner than coal (or coke)? and what is a good idea for a blower? im thinking a hair drying since im going to just make my own forge. Quote
Glenn Posted April 25, 2012 Posted April 25, 2012 Charcoal is wood with the volatiles burned off. Yes it can burn clean. A blower is what you find locally to move air into the forge. Look for a squirrel cage fan, automobile heater fan, old fan from a clothes dryer, bathroom exhaust fan etc. Quote
Marksnagel Posted April 25, 2012 Posted April 25, 2012 Charcoal won't aggrivate the neighbors like coal will either. They may show up to see what you have on the grill though. Do not use briquets as they have a lot of impurities in them. Get ahold of some lump charcoal if you can. Quote
jmccustomknives Posted April 25, 2012 Posted April 25, 2012 A small wet dry vac will supply more air. If the forge is small a hair drier may be enough. Get ready for fire flies, charcoal tends to throw them off really bad. Don't put your forge near anything flamable and wear long sleeves, hat and gloves. Quote
Robar Posted April 25, 2012 Posted April 25, 2012 A small wet dry vac will supply more air. If the forge is small a hair drier may be enough. Get ready for fire flies, charcoal tends to throw them off really bad. Don't put your forge near anything flamable and wear long sleeves, hat and gloves. I've experienced these "fireflies" with lump charcoal that I bought just to try it out. I make my own and have zero flies, but I make it he simple way by burning a bunch of wood down to coals and putting it out with the hose. Quote
pkrankow Posted April 25, 2012 Posted April 25, 2012 A hair dryer probably puts out plenty of air for charcoal. Look for something better and quieter for the long run though. Phil Quote
Francis Trez Cole Posted April 25, 2012 Posted April 25, 2012 I use a dayton blower it is model #2C647 catalog 398 page 3052 through Granger if you are an ABANA member you can also get a discount Quote
marcusb Posted April 25, 2012 Posted April 25, 2012 I have found that if I use store bought charcoal it sparks badly, more wood than coal. I make my own and thru expeiment have found that if it starts sparking much, generally you are giving it to much air. Really does not take much air with charcoal. Wonderful stuff! Quote
Elemental Metal Creations Posted April 25, 2012 Posted April 25, 2012 I have burnt a lot of charcoal in my brakedrum forge. I use a blowdryer on low, it gives more air than I need with charcoal or coal. I found an old junk sewing machine and took the foot pedal speed control and use it to control how much air I get. I make my charcoal in a pit and don't have much trouble with fire fleas unless I use to much air. Quote
Michael Posted April 26, 2012 Posted April 26, 2012 You'll also burn thru a LOT more charcoal than coal, about 5 times as much in my experience. and you'll use a lot more water to control the fire. I recently made the switch to coal (found a really nice forge and firepot on Craigslist) after 5+ years forging with Cowboy Brand charcoal from the local Ace. Large tuyere holes in whatever forge you build, so the little bits of charcoal "fleas" can fall through, rather than get blown out, will help. If you catch the smithing bug, you'll likely build several forges as you work your way up the learning curve. Quote
pkrankow Posted April 26, 2012 Posted April 26, 2012 You'll also burn thru a LOT more charcoal than coal, about 5 times as much in my experience. and you'll use a lot more water to control the fire. I recently made the switch to coal (found a really nice forge and firepot on Craigslist) after 5+ years forging with Cowboy Brand charcoal from the local Ace. Large tuyere holes in whatever forge you build, so the little bits of charcoal "fleas" can fall through, rather than get blown out, will help. If you catch the smithing bug, you'll likely build several forges as you work your way up the learning curve. Pound for pound charcoal and coal have similar energy content; corn has about 1/2 the energy. (according to published values, I'll let you look them up.) The density of charcoal is much less than coal, and corn is about the same density as charcoal. This means you will feed more volume of charcoal than coal, and more corn than charcoal. Next question: dollar for dollar? That is for you to determine. Phil Quote
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