Iron Striker Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Please tell me about your VFD set up on your belt grinder. 1. Brand you have. 2. Input voltage & phase. 3. Output voltage and phase. 4. HP of motor. 5. Nema 4 or in another enclosure? 6. Best feature? Thanks, Jamie Herring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhartironwerks Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Check out wayne coe and his grinder/vfd. The vfd he uses are kbac and imho are the best. they are nema 4 enclosed...no h2o/dust. i just returned 2 teco speed controls to the westinghouse factory in tx for a full refund. one lasted 9 days and the other lasted 1 day. had a bit of a problem w/the seller. they are not nema 4 and cannot withstand the abuse/dirt/dust we give them. I have read that they were recommended in a previous post, but i suggest that you steer clear of them. spend the extra $ and buy a kbac, or another w/a nema 4 enclosure. je Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Good to know John. I have not used that brand, I was just looking at prices when someone said $300 - 500. Actually the only brand I've personally used is from Automation Direct, their GS-2 series. With no enclosure, 2HP is $250.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjohnbarleycorn Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I have 2 teco's no enclosure and one other brand , I make my own enclosures, I have had them for three years and no problem, They are all in unheated structures. With all electronics you can get bad ones, and brands can start out good and then go down hill. I also like automation direct good service and people. they are happy to help you on the phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjohnbarleycorn Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 also a lot of info on the forum " practical machinist" under the vfd's heading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNewman Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I cannot recommend Leeson VFDs either. I had one on a lathe that lasted a few years but then when it died after about 2 years, I bought a replacement and it blew up immediately. It took several months to get a replacement from the factory. It was not enclosed but I enclosed it in a large steel weatherproof electrical box. It cost me over $1000 because I needed one that would work with 575V which is the most common three phase here in Ontario. In hindsight it would been cheaper to pick up a used 220v three phase motor and one of the cheaper VFDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhartironwerks Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Grant, I did the same thing...tried to go on the skinny and paid $215. ea. The kbac I finally ended up with was $368. Live and learn. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Tim215 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Please tell me about your VFD set up on your belt grinder. 1. Brand you have. Zest 2. Input voltage & phase. 220 V single PH 3. Output voltage and phase. 380 V 3 PH 4. HP of motor. 1.1 KW 5. Nema 4 or in another enclosure? Electrical Box 6. Best feature? Built in POT and price Thanks, Jamie Herring Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadHatter Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I'm looking for a vairable speed motor or control for my belt sander, but I only have 1PH in my shop. John, I looked at that KB website, and didn't see any 1PH stuff. (Never worked w any 3 PH stuff, so maybe I'm missing something)... Looks like these things are designed to convert 1 PH input to 3 PH output. All I need is variable speed control for a 1 PH motor. Or should I be looking for a 3 PH motor teamed up with the KB control...? chad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadHatter Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 John, Just checked out Wayne Coe's website. Learned a few things. Thanks for the heads up. chad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneCoeArtistBlacksmith Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Chad, the VFD does convert single phase to 3 phase 230v. You will have to have a 3 phase motor. 4X)Be sure and get a TEFC (Totally Enclosed Fan Coold) motor and the VFD should be dust proof. With the KBAC 27D and you have a 1.5 hp motor you can have 115V single phase in, 230V 3 phase out to the motor. With a 2 hp motor you must have 230V in. Let me know if you have other questions or if I can help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Striker Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 All, If I understand this correctly: You can't vary the speed on a single phase motor. You can use 115V single phase (in) on 3 phase motors up to 1.5 hp. You need 230V (in) for 3 phase 2 hp motors and over. Correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneCoeArtistBlacksmith Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 That all holds true for the KBAC 27D. Generally, you have to have a 3 phase motor. There are VFDs that require 3 phase in and 3 phase out. Grant posted a vfd that used a single phase motor a while back but I think that they were very low hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 All, If I understand this correctly: You can't vary the speed on a single phase motor. You can use 115V single phase (in) on 3 phase motors up to 1.5 hp. You need 230V (in) for 3 phase 2 hp motors and over. Correct?Nope! The frequency controls the RPM on any induction motor, number of phases has nothing to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Traylor Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I have been using a Variac speed control on my 115v forge blower for years. Works great. I have no idea what it is or how it works but it works. They are always available on Ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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