bipolarandy Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I thought id share some photos of the Damascus iv been working on for a few weeks. Usually I forget to take photos of the stuff im working on as i make it, but I remembered to on this one. I started out with one large diamond file, and a piece of 1045 that i drew out to the same dimensions. I cut those up, stacked them together and got a billet 8 layers thick. Then I drew that out, and cut it into 8 pieces and re-stacked and welded it. I did it this way to save my self the many folding and welding operations, And as long as you have use of a power hammer : ), i think its the way to go. Now my billet has 64 layers, I forged it out again and cut it into 10 pieces and welded it back together. -Andrei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipolarandy Posted December 28, 2006 Author Share Posted December 28, 2006 That gave me about 640 layers( give or take ), I know iv lost alot of steel due to very oxidizing gas forge Iv been making this in. Then I forged that billet out into a bar about 1/4" by 1" wide and about a foot long. And scrolled it up into a jelly roll I did the jelly roll because I thought it was a neato idea, and id never done one before. Now im going to start forging that into a flat bar that will become the blade. Its quite apparent how much metal iv lost during the forging. I started with billet almost twice the size of that. -Andrei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Looks Great andy. Cannot wait to see the blade. If you have any scraps of that steel, fell free to send a bit or two my way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Where are you working? Is that whole shop yours, or are you an apprentice or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Turner Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Nice shop I was thinking the same as Rusty. I have been wanting to do a jelly roll, that is looking good can't what to see the blade. Did you use a power hammer or do it all by hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candidquality Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Thanks for taking the time to show us. Nice looking shop. Should be an interesting pattern. How long before you try to finish it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted T Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Bipolarandy, "WOW", just like ApprenticeMan and Mike, I also can't wait to see the pattern. Nice shop! I hope it's yours. Thanks for sharing. Be safe, be safe! Ted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I wanna see the pattern coming out that jelly roll, nice pictorial, hope a good blade come forged soon and share pics with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainsFire Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 you can tame down some of the oxidazation by tossing in some charcoal or coke.. it burns up some of the oxygen.. so you'll loose less metal during the process.. nice billet, cant wait to see how it looks. Edit: xxxx sorry guy's, didn't mean to bring back such an old thread.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Turner Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Hey Andy it has been a while you get that billet done yet? Rainsfire no problem I almost forgot about this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted T Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 RainsFire Old memories with a new idea is a good thing. Thank You Be Safe! Old Rusty Ted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipolarandy Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 Actually , iv been looking at that billet for the past few days thinking of what I could forge it into,(it got lost in the mess that is my shop). But, seeing as how im moving in a month, im not gonna rush things wile im packing a house and a shop :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan_568 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 If I get excessive scaling I turn the gas up a bit. You want a slightly carbonizing mixture in your forge. I lose next to nothing from scaling when I've got it set right. I use a rheostat to control the blower and it's not that good but it can be done. That should be a cool looking blade when it's finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Conan, I assume your forge is blown? It seems that my forge creates scale regardless of the volume of gas due to the fact that my burners are naturally aspirated. Hence, more gas, more ox, no less scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Dodge, no air control for your burners? My aspirated ones have a disk that I can adjust the air intake with. Not as adjustable of stable as my blown forge but I can get it reducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GVR-4579 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I had read once that if you use a file you will get many small imperfections from the teeth leaving air bubles. Any indication of this or was the article i read wrong? I am looking forward to seeing what kind fo pattern you get nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Dodge, no air control for your burners? My aspirated ones have a disk that I can adjust the air intake with. Not as adjustable of stable as my blown forge but I can get it reducing. Tom, yes I do have chokes on my burners but they don't seem to make a lot of difference unless fully closed, but I haven't done any definitive testing. Just going by sound as I use my hand to fully close and can't see the flame. I know there's probably more I can do to improve things, but it gets hot and it'll makes steel a purty yellow color so for now I live with it . Thinking of building a new forge with blown burners eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welder19 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Love to see it when you get back to it welder19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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