Lukas Jacobs Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I bought 2 old vices at the scrapyard.The one on the right I do not know. All the vices I have looks like the one on the right.How is it mounted and what are the holes for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dablacksmith Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 dint know what the holes are for ... they are missing the mounting hardware and spring to hold open the jaws .. you can build um i dont have a handy picture of what they look like but shouldnt be a problem to find a picture .. not to hard to build ... the one on left the bolt and nut are replacement probably should look at recent thread about how to fix that ... good find if ya got um for scrap price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua.M Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 the one onthe right looks like a peter wright i have one that has 5" jaws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Jacobs Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Yes. The right is the well-kwown one.I would like to see a pic. of the left one complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Older vises often had a tanged mounting bracket that went through a hole a bit under the screw opening and the spring alos had a hole in it and fit over the tanged bracket and then a wedge through the tang held the whole kit and caboodle together. Is this what yiu were asking about? I just recently made a replacement bracket and spring for one of these but I use a retaining clip instead of a wedge to hold it together as it's my travel vise. Mounted it to the workbench my Y1K forge sits on yesterday... You can, of course, retrofit a more modern "wrap around bracket to an older vise if you want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Maybe Mr. Turley has some idea. The tang mount sounds good except there's a hole/slot in both jaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Miller Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 The other one is some form of European style vise not English probably from the 19th century. My guess you being in south Africa is that it is of Dutch or German origin. One sees similar kinds of vises in German blacksmithing books. The extra beefy pivot joint is the give away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Jacobs Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Thanks for your valuable input.Now I can begin work on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstermetal Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 yeah that "cheek" vise is a real gem... its rough but that would make a really fine vise if you could find a good box and screw for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Odd to have one in each side but the back on is located where the bracket "must" attach. Did they possibly mount the spring on the front side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 The oddball vise is an unknown, although the beefy beam with the multiple rivets may indicate that it is from the European continent. Most old German anvils had a small projection, an "anvil" protruding from the back of the fixed jaw. It was used a little like the way we use an London pattern anvil step (drop), a vee block to work against. I don't understand the two rectangular holes. As mentioned, the vise on the right looks like a nice Peter Wright. http://www.turleyforge.com Granddaddy of Blacksmith Schools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Miller Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Upon further inspection I'm going to make a speculation. I see a line on the side of the movable jaw perhaps the sign that it was drop forged. Also it looks exactly the same as the back jaw. Perhaps they only had one die set to make the jaws and they needed that mortise on the back to mount it so it got put in the front too. The bottom of back jaw got drawn out into the leg and the front jaws bottom end got forged into the pivot. I could be wrong its just a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I see the parting line, that is an interesting hypothesis. Both jaws look very similar. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I keep looking at the vise and thinking that if the nut had a shouldered "tail" welded to it that could curve and fit the hole, it could be wedged inside the leg to hold it in place. I'm thinking maybe a low hydrogen rod would be strong enough. Alternatively, to protect the projecting threads, the nut could be welded inside the end of a pipe, creating a "screw box." A boss/stop could be welded or brazed along the pipe length, as we see with most screw boxes. http://www.turleyforge.com Granddaddy of Blacksmith Schools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Why weld? Just fit that square nut into a square shaped tube. Put some tabs on the end of the tube to keep it from separating, neck it down to suit the rest of the vise. Just a thought. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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