Fe-Wood Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I've been given a piece of Atlantic-33, a Flutegon. I would like to make a rounding hammer head out of it. Any tips on heat treating. I would like this head to be pretty hard for cold working copper etc. How far into the orange or yellow spectrum of heat should I take it before quenching. Its a water quench steel, so I'm wondering if I should use running water, standing water or warm standing water. Thanks guys- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Get in touch with Brent Bailey. He uses Atlantic-33 for his hammers. I believe I read somewhere on-line where Brent explains the whole process of making a hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy k Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Funny you ask - Just this morning I made a punch out of the same stuff -Atlantic 33. This material is a forge/grind to shape and air cool.......That's how I was told to use it - simple as it gets. I'm not sure how/if it works if heat treated - JK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerkid Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I think there is a article in the hammers blow that Brent Bailey has a how to on making a hammer from Atlantic 33. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Hale Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Google knows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fe-Wood Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Funny, I got this stuff from Brent B. as part of his free gift program:D... He did give me tips on working it but I wanted other oppinions and experiances. Bye the bye, I use one of his hammers now and love it!! Jeremy- I was told NOT to heat treat by Brent. Depending on how hot (Hi orange, Low yellow heat) it was when quenched is what determines hardness. THATS IT. Got to love that:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian.pierson Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Here is a website of a company that sells A-33 with tips on handling the steel.Atlantic Tool Steel I have never worked the stuff so cannot vouch for it. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I printed Brents article on making this hammer with Atlantic 33 ...he says after you finsh forging to anneal it in vermiculite or ashes then grind to the final profile. he says Atlsntic 33 is a water quench alloy that requires no tempering. he goes on to say in a coal fire use a pr of flat jawed tongs to turn the hammer from pein to face until both ends have been heated to a bright red or low yellow color. the area surrounding the eye should show very little color, perferably none. when the pein and face have reached the desired temperature, quench the entire hammer in water. up and down and sweral around...I copied the article from his web site but when I went back it was not posted any longer... hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Fe-Wood: You say not to heat treat then you explain the heat treatment???? Dazed and Confused (those would be my two helpers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fe-Wood Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 Come on Nakedanvil- can't you read my mind!!!! I ment drawing a temper. Shesh:p To the rest of you- Thanks for the info. I will be working the hammer head this weekend:D I will post picks if all works out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Wille Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Here's a link to Brent Bailey's hammer making article:http://www.calsmith.org/techniques/hammers/baileycrosspein.pdf I came across it by happenstance the other day while browsing the CBA's website. I was glad to find it again as I had not been able to located it for some time, and didn't think to print out a copy. Ian Wille Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fe-Wood Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 Thanks for the link Ian. Glad I checked in this morning because I'm off to a friends shop for a couple days of smithing. Rounding Hammer and a cross pein are on the agenda. The flutegon I got from Brent and 4' of axle shaft 1 3/4" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Where are you going this weekend, Fe- Wood? I'm going to Bill Stewart's this weekend to cut up a bunch of 4140 for hammers. I can get tons of the stuff and you are welcome to have some. We are getting ready to take off for the East Coast in September and we may not be back for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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