Rich very well put, I for one have tried to help some of the new guys that are making basic mistakes, that if they started with the basics and perfected the basic skills they would have never made those frustrating mistakes. Not that I don't mind helping I personally find it frustrating when you give advice and it goes in one ear and out the other and this makes me want to stop helping just because I feel I am wasting my valuable time trying to teach someone something that they have no real interest in learning the fundamentals of the trade they just want to jump to the end and be a master without ever being an apprentice. I am really glad this thread was started and wish it could be a sticky thread so all the new guys can read and be humbled. Maybe we could get more interest in the Tuesday night blueprints by posting a schedule of what will be covered the coming Tuesday BP. I know many times I have stopped in and had no interest at what was the BP for the night and missed others I wish I could have caught and if I knew it was on the schedule I may have found a computer just to sit in.
I do strongly agree with all the that has been said by our senior members.
I am farrier and I apprenticed for 2 years after I went to a 8 week course, I am not a blacksmith as the majority here are but I am very capable forging anything. Most of the best smiths I have ever meet are or have been farriers. I have spent a good deal of my years as a farrier perfecting my skills and my craft and now that I want to do more smithing I myself have gone back to basics so that I may perfect the skills and craft I wish to pursue now.
Again thank you Rich for starting this wonderful eye and mind opening thread.