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My take is let the cutting edge stuff ripen a while. If it's as good as advertized we'll be seeing it from folk like Lincoln, Miller, Hobart, etc. in a little while. I'll maybe give it a try when I can drive down to the local welding supply and get a hands on demo of a unit.

 

Right off the top I can think of a couple problems welding with a plasma torch but what I can THINK of often has little if any relation to reality.

 

Frosty The Lucky.

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I don't know about this product! But 15 years ago when I got back from Abu Dhabi I told people about this welding machine that I had just bought for $120 that could arc and tig , came with electrode holder and torch, was very light and used less power than a toaster. Everyone said it was cheap Chinese crap that would die in a week! They were wrong, that Giant 160amp inverter is still going strong. At the time the 'big brands' were still fast asleep with regards to putting the technology in the general consumer's hands.

Just think how induction heating has been revolutionized, yes the technology has been around a long time(think bearing heaters etc.) it was just not "consumerised"

This may be the first of a wave? We should be so lucky.

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Greetings 82,

 

I am a believer in value for your money but value is relative..  I am all Blue in my shops and found that being able to go to the weld shop for a part or product information or tech support is an enormous value.  Resale is a big factor... If you don't like it is there a market for it?  I see many products that claim to be universal and will fit or work in all conditions ... The truth they never fit or work..  My bucks is on BLUE..  What is the cost if the machine quits or needs a part in the middle of a big job?  My 2c

 

Forge on and make beautiful things

JIm

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I actually have one of these. Honestly, I love it when its working, but its a finicky little machine. Of course we're hard on tools in my shop. The plasma cutter works for thinner stuff but I had some issues above 3/16, of course I've got another cutter that does 1.25" so I haven't really played with it that much. I generally use this when welding billets for Damascus, but it makes a super clean weld that essentially feels like i'm brazing materials together. Haven't tried welding anything heavier than 5/8 with it. Unfortunately all the parts are proprietary and need to be maintained quite often. If I get a chance I'll fire it up and take a few pictures later this week.

J

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These arent the best. My business partner is the wiz with the thing, but heres a quick weld of 3 pieces. 2 @ 1/4 1 @ 3/16. Like I said, I need practice with it. I normally get frustrated and grab the mig. :) his welds are definitely a lot nicer.

J

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These arent the best. My business partner is the wiz with the thing, but heres a quick weld of 3 pieces. 2 @ 1/4 1 @ 3/16. Like I said, I need practice with it. I normally get frustrated and grab the mig. :) his welds are definitely a lot nicer.

J

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I have a few questions if you dont mind:

Its basically atomic hydrogen welding, right? if so the technique was invented 1924 but it never established  

In a few videos I have seen the flame flickering, how noticeable is it while welding/cutting?

Have you experienced Hydrogen embrittlement when working with tool steel?

Have you ever tried to use a mechanical feed for cutting like its done with acetone oxygen cutters? 

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I've been using this for more than a year, mostly on steel.  I came across this group because I was searching for news on the Multiplaz. Their website is down or partially down as I can still access most of the pages, but the server returns a 404 on the main page.  Anyway, I find it extremely useful.  I considered becoming a dealer in NH but I have other interests more compelling than selling stuff.

Last fall I had a sculpture commission and i used  a Hobart Handler for the long straight welds, and the Multiplaz for detailed welding in tight areas where I needed maneuverability.  You can see the process I followed at http://www.philmorse.com/sculpture/Cummings/index.html

I  also used it for pieces like the second one down on my sculpture page...http://www.philmorse.com/sculpture   Civilization and its discontents.

Regards,

Phil

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In response to concerns about it working, it works best when it's well maintained.  You have to watch the wear on the electrodes.  All of the internal parts, quartz tube, electrodes, nozzles, etc, are replaceable.  I am very careful to keep it clean and  never shut it off without putting it into a water bucket.  So far so good.  I do need to buy some new nozzles, however.

 

Phil

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