AJAX Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 hey, i was wondering if you guys could help me compile a list of everything i need to start forging basic knives. i am very excited to get started. thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Hale Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Some folks do not like it when I answer questions by providing some reseaerch for the person asking,,,but It is simply easier on me to not type for the next hour. Did you read in this part of the forum about New knife makere? or the one on answers for folks wanting to make knives? They both provid a ton of information for you,,,as well as almost any thing that has been posted in the knfe section of this forum, and do not forget the heat treat stickies. After you spend time on that data and still have some questions pop back in and we wil help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Einhorn Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Try here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Well lets see you need a shovel, some wood, matches and two rocks, also your metal to forge. Basic set up. Now if you can narrow down your question and provide some parameters we might be able to suggest a set up more suited to you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Striker Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Mompy, I just got started myself and I am learning that your list wil indeed be endless. I suggest you look around the forum and see what interests you, read all you can and then just start doing what you like asking questions when you get stumped. Welcome to the forum. Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The basics are: Something to heat it, something to hit it with and on and something to hold it---and something to hit of course So solid fuel or propane (or NG or induction)? Look into all the prior posts on improvised anvils Get a couple of nice hammers at the fleamarket and dress the faces---don't go to heavy at the start, or too light. You can start with long pieces you hold in your hands or use visegrips, pliers, or get a set of tongs that fit your needs. I suggest starting with a good automotive coil spring cut down opposite sides to give a double handful of pieces that you can work with till you learn how *that* alloy works as you can experiment with heat treats and forging temps with the alloy the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlissStreet Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 As Thomas said, you need a forge, an anvil, a hammer, tongs and something to shape. Leaf springs are slightly easier to start with, IMO. I would add paper and a pencil, since you need to give yourself something to guide yourself; few things are harder then starting with no end point. All these things can be made or improvised for cheap; I'm an example of that. Welcome aboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJAX Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 well i was just looking for basic information that you find helpful. i think i want to go for a solid fuel forge. until i start really getting into forging, i want to know the shortcuts you guys know of. im talking about things like using a RR bar instead of an anvil, use a drum brake as and forge, etc. i need all the small tips about forging that you guys can throw at me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbeast Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 As much as we appreciate your thirst for knowledge in this new interest, the best way is to just start hitting hot metal. It will change the way you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerdsmith Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I was in the same boat, but keep youtubing and googling to get some of the basics down.. But I can share is what not to do. Anvil - If your going to use the track i would suggest getting a bigger piece than 12". It is what i am using now, i wish i would of had a bigger piece than 10" so I could of set it up vertically so that the striking surface may be small but it has a lot more mass underneath it. It is good for the shaping the blades, but when you start getting bigger and thicker pieces of material this is where it doesnt do so so well. I got mine for 10 bux at a local scrap yard pre-cut. Instead i would highly recommend contacting your local scrap yard or maybe even forklift repair shop and getting a Forklift tine. My local place offered $50 for one of the bigger forklift tines.. not the common ones you would see in like Cosco for example. That was for the tine and for them to cut it for me. I wish i would of went this route when i first started. Forge - Brake drum - Good if you can find a breakdrum for free, but the only thing I do not like is how deep the well is and the diameter of the drums.. Good for smaller knives and tools and what not, but you will need to pile that thing up with fuel in order to heat longer bars and material. I ended up cutting a section out in order for longer things to be heated, for example making TONGS! So what i use now is a break disc, that sits on top of my old break drum. I used a salvaged catering tub thingy and cut it so that my fuel has a place to rest. Most people say to use 2" piping for the air delivery system, but 2" piping is expensive compared to 1 1/4" so i went with that instead. Here is what im using currently: Tongs - If you can, try to look for some used tongs somewhere because this was the biggest hassle/headache/obstacle in my experince. I bought 5 dollar long locking pliers from harborfrieght. Dont get those. .they are terrible. Instead i would suggest for now the biggest set of channel locks you can get/afford. And before making any blade i would suggest making a couple of tongs first, esp ones that can hold Rounded items, and another that is used to hold wider flat material like blades. I do not know the proper names for these. Im still trying to make better tongs, because that is my biggest struggle with smithing. Some other essentials that I found to be important in the begining stages are: Files - For shaping Hot cutting Chisel - for cutting your material. Vise - Hold material, Knives for finishing, handles, etc. I hope this helped, not a complete guide but this will help get off to a good start, and my reasoning is to make the forging process as effecient as possible so that the work put in is not harder than needs to be with the lowest budget possible. One last thing. Dont put your workshop outdoor with no roof.. Been raining for 3 days and I need to pound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackravenforge Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 my first forge was a bbq grill filled with coal, the exaust from a vacume cleaner hooked to a piece of pipe for a blower, a piece of rr track for an anvil, a carpenters hammer, and a pair of vice grips for tongs. you don't really need anything fancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I once did a pattern welding demo for a fellow at his place using a chunk of rail, a claw hammer, charcoal sifted from desert bonfires and an improvised firepot. Only "real" blacksmithing tool we had was a hand crank blower. Oh yes one other item: *decades* of practice allowing me to work with an improvised set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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