Lysdexik Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 OK for us poor devils who aren't Artist Blacksmiths. What are Monkey tools, and Butcher tools. And if I don't get to say it again, Have a Very Happy Christmas, and the new year you would wish for yourself!!!! Thanks to Frosty, Jymm H, Mark A, Ice Czar, and everyone else who have made this the best new discovery of my 2008! Paul Hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Oh MAN! I'm sitting here biting my cheek trying to reign in my basic nature to jump all over such wonderful, WONDERFUL I say, straight lines! You are a cruel, CRUEL man Paul. Frosty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Einhorn Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I agree, it is hard to pass up good straight lines. Oh well. Monkey tools are what you use to twist, adjust or bend with. Butcher tools are used to cut and make shoulders for having a thick bar shoulder down suddenly to a thinner bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysdexik Posted December 24, 2008 Author Share Posted December 24, 2008 What does a monkey tool look like? A "Monkey" wrench? In England they are known as Stillson's after the guy who marketed them, another example of "two nations divided by a common language". Would you use a butcher to make tenons. Off the subject, between Balto, G Burg & York. New Berlin? paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul B Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Actualy a Monkey wrench did not have teeth and a stilson wrench does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hammer Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 (edited) I'm assuming this is a serious inquiry.... This is what I know as a monkey tool. If you are doing traditional joinery and forge a round tenon, a monkey tool is used to 'set' the shoulder (make it square) on a tenon and/or upset the shoulder for effect. The hole in the side of the monkey tool could be for escaping scale, or a visual for you to be sure the tenon is not bottoming out in the tool. The monkey tool is placed over your forged tenon, then struck with a hammer, Edited December 24, 2008 by djhammerd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_sandy_creek_forge Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 agreed with dj....'cept mine aren't that pretty... -Aaron @ the SCF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptree Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Dave Hammer got it right. And a butcher tool is sorta a butcher knife for hot iron. Lets you cut down sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrynjr Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 A butcher is more like a chisel with a very wide blade, with a 45 degree angle to it. Here is a picture of one with a side set tool also. It is not particularly knife like. You use the butcher to isolate a mass to be forged out into tenon's and filials. The side set is used to move the mass away from the shoulder after you've butchered down to your desired thickness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petere76 Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 Paul, A great come on my friend. Cheers and a very Merry Christmas to you, yours and all in attendance. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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