Jason Fry Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Made a trip to the steel yard, and was offered the friend price if I bought from the scrap pile outside. Drew this up.... I'm thinking 12" timbers underneath. The 2" layer is a 2 by 24 round piece of mild. The 14 by 7 is round, and the top 6.5 is round. Total weight minus timbers is the numbers on the right, roughly 650. Will this be better, worse, or equal to a similar weight of round stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Are their joints between the various sizes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Fry Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 Joints, yes. Haven't decided on bolt together with brackets vs. welding it around the perimeters. Moveability later is a consideration, as I don't intend to stay in this house forever. I'm thinking possibly weld the 6.5 to the 14.5, and triangular gussets? Then bolt the rest? Heck, IDK, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Ok Solid mass trumps pieced mass; OTOH it's handy being able to mount a round on it's side to use it for drawing. Also as you get LARGE the change in efficiency gets fairly low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Fry Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 That’s what I’m hoping, that the sheer mass will overcome the challenges of the joints. Thinking 50 to 60 lb tup, haven’t got that far yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Sorry, I missed the PH: for a powerhammer I would go monolithic as they get more "bounce" between the pieces. I have seen PH anvils that use vertically arrayed sections welded , the Iron Kiss did it that way. The idea being that you have 1 interface between the die and the stand and another between the stand and the floor, rather than a bunch of interfaces from horizontally stacked pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Fry Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 Well that all just changed, lol. I went back out there and found even better options. I think I'll end up with a 12 by 12 round with a 7.5 by 22 on top. May put it on one of those 2" plates also. 655 in two pieces without the plate He's giving me a good price. I'm going to buy everything suitable for PH anvils and flip some of it. If you can "flip" a 300 pound thingamabob. Has a 6.5 by 48", 451 lbs. and a whole lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I've done it; friend got a real good deal on some solid round, over 5" diameter, heavy enough to make treadle hammer anvils, medium carbon steel. I bought 4 and sold 2 for what I paid for 4 and gave one to another friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Fry Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 Yep, that's my plan. Should be able to sell at 40 cents a pound, where the spot rate at the yard is 65, and I'll be making enough to pay for mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arftist Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Keep the 4.5 x 48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/1/2020 at 3:48 PM, ThomasPowers said: I've done it; friend got a real good deal on some solid round, over 5" diameter, heavy enough to make treadle hammer anvils, medium carbon steel. I bought 4 and sold 2 for what I paid for 4 and gave one to another friend. Wow that was a long time ago, Thomas, probably 18 yrs because i was still living in ohio when i got those bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yup and I have been out here 16+ years. As soon as I get power to my shop and can use the Arc Welder; building that treadle hammer is high on my list! I have a 1" thick plate suitable for the base and some I beam for the back---though I recently saw some nice heavy sq tubing at the scrapyard. I may redesign as I go along. Are y'all working up at Scott Forge? We had been talking about going to Quad-State this year; but it's probably on hold till 2021. (TGLW&TCDR!) Like most of my projects; they go slowly as I accumulate the needed pieces on the cheap and then: WHOOMP get done. I'm pushing for more whoomps as I'm getting older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Aren't WHOOMPS a source of TBIs? Don't be jinxing yourself I'm hopping to hook up at Quad-State in 21. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Fry Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 Lol, I hope I get a whoomp and not a TBI on this project. So far I've got plenty of anvil material, a 30" circle of 1.75 plate at 350 lbs for a base, and I've purchased a tire and hub assembly. Have to keep selling knives before I can whoomp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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