Thursigar Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 I currently use a vertical rr anvil and I might use this as an opportunity to convince the wife to let me upgrade. Here is what I am considering: $592 TFS 100 lb $455 Emerson 100lb $227 NC 70 lb ferrier I need to be as cheap as possible while still getting the most bang for my buck. Would the NC anvil even be an upgrade over my vertical rr? Any other thoughts or recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 What are you going to be making on the anvil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 I remember the thread about your RR anvil and it looks like a good one. What problems have you run into using it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursigar Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, Irondragon Forge & Clay said: I remember the thread about your RR anvil and it looks like a good one. What problems have you run into using it? Two problems so far: 1. It mars up pretty easily. I know Im still developing hammer control but I've had to bust out the grinder twice since making it to clean up the top...otherwise nasty marks on my work. 2. It's been a pia to use with longer stock. I've tried both hammering along the vertical side of it as well as using a separate horizontal railroad anvil. This could also be my inexperience. 3. I've been too lazy to try to solve the problem of not having a horn. The best solution I've come up with as someody who cant weld is to bolt on a 1 inch square tube and use a horizontal bick that I make myself. 4. The grass is always greener... 29 minutes ago, Glenn said: What are you going to be making on the anvil? Right now I'm focusing on making tools and hardware for my shop. When I'm not working on those projects I'm practicing my ABANA lessons. Still havent been able to do a single heat taper yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 I would save longer and buy bigger.. Stay away from any farrier specific anvil.. You want as much thickness to the waist area as possible.. I've hear good things about both Emerson and TFS.. Holland anvils might be nother option as is Kanca or even Peddinghaus.. Refflinghaus is an expensive option.. If you are denting your anvil now. You will still be denting the new anvil.. It will just make you cry more.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursigar Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 They actually have 2 kanca anvils within my "budget", I just never heard of them. They have: $392 77lb $528 110lb These just seemed like high price per pound options... Good thoughts about denting a new anvil... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedar Crest Forge Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 As cheap as possible? Is 66 lbs enough? Search ebay link removed. Horn problem solved. Then sell it on craigslist and buy a real anvil when you get past the "denting" phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 If you need a horn, look for different sizes of pipe, or other shapes that can be used. A portable hole and tooling will solve many problems. Look for a pick axe that has the shape you want. You could put a taper on solid round stock or taper a piece of pipe to make a horn. 3 hours ago, Thursigar said: Still have not been able to do a single heat taper yet... People do not pay for heats, they pay for finished products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Single heat tapers come with practice.. they are only a skill set to practice up to as an ideal.. a good ASO or ALO will work just as well for someone that is skilled as a real anvil.. It's the man that makes the tools, not the tools that make the man.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 The most expensive anvil you list is under $600. This was copied from another post: Think of the anvil as a life time investment. It may be a bit expensive at first, but the price drops each time you use the anvil when you average out the price per hour of use. For instance, $2000 should get you most of the NEW anvils available, until you get into the heavy anvils. If you use that anvil for a year (2000 hours) then the anvil cost is only $1.00 per hour. Put a rent-to-own container in the shop and RENT your anvil for the very reasonable $1.00 an hour. No fair cheating and skipping a payment, or allowing the wife to find the rent-to-own container. At the end of a year (2000 hours) the anvil is paid for. Anvils, rent to own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Great info Glenn.. Makes perfect sense and an great anvil is a good investment.. With todays market the price does not go down.. It's like a tractor.. the price just keeps on going.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eventlessbox Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Definatly make sure you factor in shipping when deciding where to order from. I just ordered the 110lb Kanca myself and bought it for a higher sticker price as shipping was almost $100 cheaper from the retailer I went with for a very slight increase in sticker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Lotta times if you hit up a farrier supply they will order you one from the anvil MFG and will have it shipped in with an order.. This can save you a bunch on shipping.. Or you can purchase at a place that offeres free shipping.. Glenn is pretty tough on links.. But the company I ordered my Peddinghaus from offered free shipping and tax free and 25% of the top price.. Delivered was less than a smaller size anvil.. The Peddinghaus was 1942.00 so it dropped it substantially.. for a model 12.. I paid less than this.. and you can see what another well known starting with an A wants for price below.. I am in no way saying this is the anvil to buy.. I am simply showing there are some deals out there that can substaintially help in the quest with some patients and some more saving.. Ridgid Peddinghaus Forged Anvil - Model 12 - 8-1/2" Horn (96942) SKU: 95340 $1,661.53/ea Ridgid 69642 Model 12 Forged Anvil by Ridgid 5.0 out of 5 stars Best Deal Price: $2,975.69 + $3.67 shipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursigar Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 When I said local, I meant super local. They are on my way to work. As far as saving up the money for an investment anvil, it's really more about the spending on a hobby from the wife's perspective. I might be able to get away with 300-500 with a shaking of the head, but 2,000 might have me sleeping on the anvil! If I get to the point where I decide to start selling things and begin to break even or turn a profit, then my arguement may grow stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Took me 5 years of saving to purchase the Peddinghaus. I dont eat lunch out, or smoke or get coffee out.. each dollar saved is a dollar earned.. When I was little my parents always said " if you want something, work and save for it.." It's not so much as an anvil being an investment as it is giving you something you wont want to upgrade later.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Work with what you have and every time you sell something put a dollar in the anvil kitty. Meanwhile really push on the TPAAAT. You may find one CHEAP before you save up enough to buy an new expensive one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursigar Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 On 3/30/2019 at 12:09 AM, Glenn said: Look for a pick axe that has the shape you want. 2 Ironically, I just picked up an old smallish pick axe that miiiight work. I don't have a post vice yet, any ideas for mounting it? I'm considdering just digging another hole and burying the handle lol. On 3/30/2019 at 12:09 AM, Glenn said: People do not pay for heats, they pay for finished products. This is a great perspective, and one that I will remember. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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