BladeSmithInTraining24 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Alright so, i know a guy that works at a welding shop. he ordered me some "1084" flat bar, the reason i put 1084 in quotations is because i dont know if it is.... i cut out 2 knives and before i annealed them i decided i was gonna test the steel. I got a scrap peice from cutting the tip into the blade. I heated it up to a bright red/ dull orange quenched in pre heated (about bath water hot) vegstable oil and it did not harden. I quenched again a little hotter this time same, cut off a new peice quenched it a little cooler, let it cool down, checked it, soft. So at this point im frustrated, so i heated it up to a bright red (just like the first time) quenched it in water and it still bent and wouldnt skate a file!! There were less sparks from that then some 1095 farriers rasps, but the Sparks were bursting like high carbon though... i cant think of anything else to do... thanks for your help in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 try orange 1084 hardens at 1475 F in oil so you could be too cool, also the waters vapor jacket could be interfering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeSmithInTraining24 Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, Steve Sells said: try orange 1084 hardens at 1475 F in oil so you cold be too cool, also the waters vapor jacket could be interfering When i said i quenched a little hotter that time it was a mid/ bright orange. Also i quench in a gas forge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 how do you quench in a forge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeSmithInTraining24 Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 25 minutes ago, Steve Sells said: how do you quench in a forge? i quench in oil i use a gas forge to heat my work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalcain2 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 You had me excited for a moment. A forge quench would be the biggest thing since bar stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeSmithInTraining24 Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, Tubalcain2 said: You had me excited for a moment. A forge quench would be the biggest thing since bar stock. Haha yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeSmithInTraining24 Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 Alright guy i dug through the trash in my shop mystery solved... it is 1018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 then it wont harden no matter what you do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeSmithInTraining24 Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Steve Sells said: then it wont harden no matter what you do Yeah steve... thats why i said mystery solved.... i know 1018 is mild, it only has .18% carbon where 1084 has .84% carbon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Tubalcain2; may I suggest you look into Austempering and salt baths if you like to quench in furnaces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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