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Quenching "1084"

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Alright so, i know a guy that works at a welding shop. he ordered me some "1084" flat bar, the reason i put 1084 in quotations is because i dont know if it is.... i cut out 2 knives and before i annealed them i decided i was gonna test the steel. I got a scrap peice from cutting the tip into the blade. I heated it up to a bright red/ dull orange quenched in pre heated (about bath water hot) vegstable oil and it did not harden. I quenched again a little hotter this time same, cut off a new peice quenched it a little cooler, let it cool down, checked it, soft. So at this point im frustrated, so i heated it up to a bright red (just like the first time) quenched it in water and it still bent and wouldnt skate a file!! There were less sparks from that then some 1095 farriers rasps, but the Sparks were bursting like high carbon though... i cant think of anything else to do... thanks for your help in advance! :)

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17 minutes ago, Steve Sells said:

try orange 1084 hardens at 1475 F in oil so you cold be too cool,  also the waters vapor jacket could be interfering

When i said i quenched a little hotter that time it was a mid/ bright orange. Also i quench in a gas forge.

You had me excited for a moment. A forge quench would be the biggest thing since bar stock.B)

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4 hours ago, Steve Sells said:

then it wont harden no matter what you do

Yeah steve... thats why i said mystery solved.... i know 1018 is mild, it only has .18% carbon where 1084 has .84% carbon. 

Tubalcain2; may I suggest you look into Austempering and salt baths if you like to quench in furnaces?

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