FireInTheForge02 Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Hi everyone! I was forging this past weekend, and working on bottle openers from 1"x1/4" mild steel flat bar. I was burning coke, and got the iron too hot, at burning temperature. Frustrated i might lose the starting thickness of the steel, (trust me, i wasn't thinking then) i thwacked the piece against the face of the anvil, just over the hardie, to try and get some scale off. when i did this though, there was a loud crack that emanated from the heated section of iron. I did not put any flux or chemicals on the steel prior. it was sparking/burning. so this has lead me to be quite confused as to what might have caused the cracking noise. :blink: Thanks, Owen Quote
swedefiddle Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Water on the Anvil? Makes steam and a loud bang. Quote
FireInTheForge02 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Posted December 4, 2014 That could possibly be it swedefiddle, my anvil was overheating a little... Quote
Frosty Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 If the anvil was warmer than air temp there wasn't any condensation on it so no steam explosion there. If the steel was liquid then it could've sealed against the anvil face on impact and trapped some air that super heated. Wild supposition that but maybe? Frosty The Lucky. Quote
Joel OF Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Water/steam/liquid on the anvil. The other day I noticed a bit of scale on the anvil face just before I was about to weld so I quickly blew it away but accidentally spat the tiniest drop of saliva, when I welded on top of it I yelped from the almighty crack. My heart burst out of my chest like in the cartoons! Quote
ausfire Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Interesting post there Owen. We should try that at my forge - might give the tourists a bit of a wake-up! Quote
KRS Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 When I overheat the iron I let it in the fire, but in cooler areas. My experience is that it cools off on top of the fire, but the iron does not burn because of the lack of oxygen- yay or nay? Quote
EricJergensen Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 KRS: yes, that's exactly what I do. Stop the air and wait a few moments for the iron to cool back down to a non-burning temperature. As you point out, the reason it sparks only a little in the fire is the low O2 level. Pull it out and it sparks like mad, indicating that it's burning much worse. Quote
FireInTheForge02 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Posted December 4, 2014 As i recall, there was water on the anvil from me trying to cool it down a little so i could keep readjusting its position on the stand. But i wonder if this works with different iron temperatures, not just at welding heat? I guess the only way to find out would be to test it out... Quote
rockstar.esq Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 I watched a forging demonstration at a knife show where the smith was purposely dipping his hammer in the slack tub before each heat. He wet his anvil with it before removing stock from the forge. His first few blows made that cracking noise and blew the scale off the metal. It seemed to work well for him but he specialized in knife making. I found it was a great way to loosen my hammerheads, loose heat, and coat myself in tenacious goop. I can tell you it would "pop" at barely red heat. I got one of those "butcher" wire brushes and it works great so no intentional "popping" for me! Quote
swedefiddle Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 Anytime someone is hangin' around when I'm forging and they start to nod off or daydream, a little water sprinkle......They wake up, with a bang!!! Nah, I didn't do that intentionaly, it was ...... a wake up call. :) :) Quote
FireInTheForge02 Posted December 5, 2014 Author Posted December 5, 2014 Anytime someone is hangin' around when I'm forging and they start to nod off or daydream, a little water sprinkle......They wake up, with a bang!!! Nah, I didn't do that intentionaly, it was ...... a wake up call. :) :) Haha i like that!! :D my friends better watch out!! Haha just kidding... maybe. Quote
iron woodrow Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 when i have guests i deliberately spit on the anvil while fire welding. CRACK!!! that wakes them up :D Quote
iron woodrow Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 spit works better than water, especially if it still has bubbles in it.... lol Quote
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