DanielC Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Sad day for the US and Alcoa, but good news for big forging in general. China has completed their 80,000 ton forging press. http://www.france-metallurgie.com/index.php/2014/10/11/china-80000-tons-world-s-largest-closed-die-forging-presses-help-to-develop-the-f-11-us/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beammeupscotty Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Not a big worry in my mind until they actually learn how to use it and decide they want to make something of quality. I have a friend whose family owns the last industrial forge in the S.F. Bay Area and a significant part of their work is making parts that the Chinese don't seem to be able or inclined to forge to spec. They ship all over the world from little old left wing Berkeley CA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Furrer Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I tried to get a tour of that forging operation in Berkley....no dice. I'd like to though. I heard a rumor of a much larger press in Russia.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Ric, I hear Scot Forge is building some big new presses have you asked about a tour there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I tried to get a tour of that forging operation in Berkley....no dice. I'd like to though. I heard a rumor of a much larger press in Russia.... Russia had the world largest press with 75.000 Tons until the Chinese build this one. A large die-hydraulic press forge is one of the key instruments in making jumbo planes. The current largest press forge is 75,000-tons and is owned by Russia. All the press forges currently in China are below 40,000 tons, which are unfit for making key parts of very large planes and hence hinder the development of the aviation industry, equipment and manufacturing. To prepare for the very large plane project, China began building its own regional jet, the ARJ-21 -- meaning "advanced regional jet for the 21st century" -- in 2002. Only the United States, Russia, France, Germany, Britain and Spain currently have the ability to build very large aircraft, with the United State's Boeing and Europe's Airbus taking the lion's share of the international market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonjic Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Not a big worry in my mind until they actually learn how to use it and decide they want to make something of quality. I have a friend whose family owns the last industrial forge in the S.F. Bay Area and a significant part of their work is making parts that the Chinese don't seem to be able or inclined to forge to spec. They ship all over the world from little old left wing Berkeley CA. Thats about the most ignorant comment ive read in a long time! :rolleyes: The press is truly epic, a shame that the article is basically gibberish. If I got the jist of it though there are individual steel castings around 750 tons used in the construction. That's bordering on unbelievable !! One of my customers is putting in a 'biggie' in Sheffield, UK at the moment. I think its around 20,000 tons. The crown is 350 ton, they were dropping the tie rods in a couple of weeks ago. 16 of them at 58 tons each !! A press 4x that size ? - epic, no other word really ! I watched a 12000 ton make an undercarriage leg for a commercial jet in one stomp once. My brain struggled with how big it was standing next to the monster. 80,000 tons. Cripes ! :blink: can you tell im impressed ? ;) Pound to a penny the Chinese will make a hundred thousand tonner one day. I can't see any other country ever doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forgemaster Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The article was very laborious to read, by the end I reckon I even had a chinese accent or talked in an asian manner. I'm with John here, the chinese have been making steel for a lot longer than anyone else here on earth, and if they need to make quality steel or quality anything they have the people, resources and government backed finance to do it. I can see it now "you want 100000 tonne pless, what colour you want it plainted, you have any colour, so long as it olive gleen"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forgemaster Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Yeh John 758 ton in one pour, thats a big casting in anyones language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Thats about the most ignorant comment ive read in a long time! :rolleyes: But its not too bad here :) I have read another thread elsewhere where the tenor was "Big press for making cheap toasters in the backyard" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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