reitenger Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I read through all of the other book threads I could find and found a new list of titles that have been added to my purchase list, but didn't find specifically what I was looking for. What I want is some suggestions for books that have good pictures, drawings or examples of older iron work in them. Stuff like decorative ironwork or useful everyday items. These don't necessarily have to be blacksmith oriented, but I wouldn't mind some that were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy k Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Your question is pretty vague but here is a book I like - Der Kunstschmied by Otto Schmirler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Do you want Roman, Viking, Renaissance, Spanish Colonial, English Colonial, 1900's, ??? I have a number of books I use for historical cooking items to make dating from a range of times. Early American Wrought Iron, Sonn; has 750 pages of stuff and will cover most of this sort of questions; However to me "older" is pre 1000 AD and a much harder area to research Southwest Colonial Ironwork, Turley; suits my current locale The Opera of Bartolomeo Scappi, 1570, has several pages of engravings of cooking implements but is mainly a book on cooking Can you narrow it down before I spend an hour typing in names? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinobi Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I haven't read them myself, but from the few pages I have seen screencapped and the descriptions other members have provided I would recommend looking at the series by Eric Sloan shared in this thread: '?do=embed' frameborder='0' data-embedContent>> if you haven't already otherwise my copy of Weygers Modern Blacksmith has pictures and diagrams on tools and step by step processes on pretty much every page. what is your end goal if I may ask, I think that will go a long way towards refining the responses you receive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSW Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 These are a few I've got saved to look for on my computer. I haven't looked at all of them in person. I have several similar books at home on my shelf, mostly dealing with late 1800's early 1900's wrought iron in architecture from back when I was studying Architecture in school. There used to be this great old bookstore in the city that had a ton of these older reprints that I'd pick up when I had some spare cash. Most of those books from Dover that I have are pretty decent books. http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchresult.cfm?parent_id=466311 http://www.amazon.com/Treasury-Ironwork-Designs-Historical-Pictorial/dp/0486271269 http://www.amazon.com/Decorative-Ironwork-Designs-Pictorial-Archive/dp/0486412237/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y http://www.amazon.com/Ornamental-Ironwork-Illustrations-Pictorial-Archive/dp/0486298116/ref=pd_sim_b_2 http://www.amazon.com/Decorative-Ironwork-Designs-Jewelry-Metalwork/dp/0486404870/ref=pd_sim_b_6 http://www.amazon.com/Wrought-Iron-Architecture-Illustrated-Metalwork/dp/0486245357/ref=pd_sim_b_6 http://www.amazon.com/Traditional-Ironwork-Designs-Pictorial-Archive/dp/0486443620/ref=pd_sim_b_5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think this answers your question best. If it does I have other titles for you. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Albert%20Sonn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reitenger Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 I had the thought fully formed in my head, but my fingers don't translate very well sometimes. What I am looking for is ironwork on American soil. I know this covers quite an area as different regions have different influences based on who settled there, but I am looking to expand my reference book collection and to collect ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Sonn's book is just that if your interested in Hardware of the colonial period and after. It references date place and most times origin of like English, Dutch, French etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 American Colonial period, doesn't cover anything of the Italian colonization of Ethiopia... "Antique Iron, Survey of American and English Forms 15th through 19th Centuries" by Herbert, Peter and Nancy Schiffer I also have a book on Philadelphia ironwork and a small one on the ironwork of New Orleans; but they are at my other house and so I can't cite them exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reitenger Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 I would definitely be interested in the philadelphia and new Orleans titles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSW Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 This the one on Philly? http://www.amazon.com/Colonial-Ironwork-Philadelphia-Philip-Wallace/dp/0486403009 http://books.google.com/books?id=2dnxS7Wv4esC&pg=PA221&lpg=PA221&dq=book#v=onepage&q=book&f=false Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reitenger Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 OK, so far I have spent $90 today on Amazon... Love having books on the shelf to reference when I am trying to design something out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSW Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 So what did you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I believe that is the Philadelphia one; but as mentioned it's a 3 hour drive away. Remind me again around Christmas and I'll look up the New Orleans one. While the majority of the decorative ironwork displayed on balconies in New Orleans is cast iron there are some forged examples. (which should survive hurricanes better...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy k Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 reitenger - could you post the titles you have already?, so we don't post ones you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 "Ferri Battuti Italiani" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reitenger Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Frank- I cannot find that title on amazon searching for it in Italian or in English. Closest I came was - I Maestri Italiani Del Ferro Battuto. At the moment I can't get past the $150 price tag, but I will at some point. My goal is to build a great reference library. Wrought Iron by Fritz Kuhn is on this months list. As of next month I will have to stop buying books until after my big summer trip of classes, hammering and conventions is over. On an aside, when I was ordering the Sonn book on Amazon I noticed that I could trade in my copy for a $1.84 amazon gift card. Made me feel good as I was dropping almost $60 for my copy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I have a 1939 copy of Kuhn's book in german of course and containing work not shown in the modern reprints for reason's that are obvious. Got it for about US$10 at a Frankfurt Germany fleamarket. I know enough German to ask about old ironwork books and was patient enough to wait the 15 minutes it took the guy to dig it out---hidden away because of current laws about display, (see above). Not for sale just an example of what CONSTANT VIGILANCE can get you---like a lovely copy of Moxon at a used bookstore in a small Arkansas town...or a large bickern stake at a pawnshop in Oklahoma... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reitenger Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 Thomas, I am the kind that is always prowling and hoping to find the next discovery I didn't know I needed. That is how I found my 1947 Lincoln SA200 welder that recently found itself restored and waiting on an appropriately old truck to go onto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Reitenger, If you get down Santa Fe way, give me advanced notice, and you can peruse some of my 300 or so smithery books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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