Daniel.85 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Ive never seen this hammer before, pretty crazy setup, anyone ever use or see one before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Not that brand; but there were several different guided helve hammers made in the USA according to "Pounding out the Profits" including at least one with the leafspring on top as I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel.85 Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 Ya it just looks a lot more complicated that the other guided helves I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I have a friend that has a helve with the rubber bumpers which I thought was an odd design choice for an environment full of oil/grease and fire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLMartin Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Hes going to destroy that hammer just crashing the hammer and anvil together. There really should be hot metal in between when running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Yaggy Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 There was an article in The Hammer's Blow 10 or 15 years ago about rebuilding one of these, and it has a few pages (more than average) in POTP. It sounds like a hard hitter, and the action in the video is quite snappy. That's a good thing. Nice long stroke more than you usually see in a mechanical. Perhaps most telling is the way the camera DOESN'T shake at each blow indicating good anvil mass, good mounting, or both. Smacking the dies together a few times isn't recommended but it can't be any harder on it than 2 shifts a day for 20 years like the industrial hammers are built for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Yaggy Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Just watched it again, noticed what look like raised letters on the bottom die. Cast steel die? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLMartin Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 No it probably will not brake instantly. But it is very bad for the hammer and clearly abuse of a tool. I am just pointing it out for people that may not know that running power hammers dry is bad for them. I have seen a hand full of people that have a old hammer in the back of a shop and they think its nifty and do not really know how to work it. And every time they have some one around they like to show it off and just run it full out dry. Then one day they do not understand when the die or the hammer or anvil crack on them. I was really sad when I watched some one run a self contained air hammer with out the lower anvil. The tub was just raising and slamming into the bottom of the frame casting with no anvil to stop the hammer head. I am sure this person destroyed the hammer in less than 20 m I do like the action and the spring rolling over the helve on this hammer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOblacksmith0530 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Interesting hammer, I see all that on the top of the helve and the way it jumps around when he is using it and can't help but think of Rube Goldberg. I am not an engineer so won't they and decipher why all that was designed onto it but I find it a little scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forgemaster Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yeh wacking those dies together with nothing in between them made me cringe, I couldn't watch the whole Vid, I had to turn it off. Biggest time for damage with doing that is when everything is cold and brittle, ie in the morning, and going by the fact the guy forging in Vid 2 was dressed for cold weather I'd guess those dies were probably dead cold. In the second vid, when the "forger" breaks the job off his holding bar, is when most old forgers would tell you, that is when you will get the scar from your upper lip, up towards your eye as the hammer hits the job and it flicks up into your face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOONY Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 ye welded hold on are not so good cant beat tongs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbruce Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Looks like a fine hammer but the poor thing looks and sounds like it use some oil :wub: :wub: :wub: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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