metalworker77 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I've been blacksmithing only since the beginning of this past summer. I built a forge with an electric blower; it has very good air flow and achieves a very bright white light, I've been leaving the blower on till till the charcoal sustains that white light for up to a minute or so. Recently I've been trying to save on charcoal so I've been putting only a small portion of charcoal on, I will wait till most of the pile is dull yellow or white hot, I sit there and stare at it monitoring it till the charcoal and steel is white hot, I remember saying to myself...wow! That Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Turner Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 They have special glasses you can get that blocks the uv light, just go to the local weld shop they can fix you up. Yes it can hurt your eyes so I would not just sit there and stare at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWooldridge Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I can't speak to charcoal but I began pursuing my interest in blacksmithing at age 23 and had to have cataract surgery at age 42. That wasn't a bad thing since it turned out well BUT I do believe the fire in my coal forge damaged my eyes over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I've been blacksmithing only since the beginning of this past summer. I built a forge with an electric blower; it has very good air flow and achieves a very bright white light, I've been leaving the blower on till till the charcoal sustains that white light for up to a minute or so. Recently I've been trying to save on charcoal so I've been putting only a small portion of charcoal on, I will wait till most of the pile is dull yellow or white hot, I sit there and stare at it monitoring it till the charcoal and steel is white hot, I remember saying to myself...wow! That Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 FIRE IS HYPNOTISING:o :o :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce wilcock Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 the smiths that worked at big fires chain welding developed a eye problem that my father called rheumy eye, and he olso told me he could pick out heavy chain makers by there eyes and the way they moved about ,from horse shoers and general jobbing smiths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 While everybody seems to be concerned about UV rays damaging the eyes remember that the primary radiation given off by forge fires and hot metal is infrared rays. Welding goggles for A/O welding provide the protection that you need, but many types of eye protection that protect the eyes from UV do not also provide IR protection. When in doubt seek the advice of a qualified professional like an opthomologist. What that will cost you is much cheaper than all the accessories you will need for your new white cane and dog. Woody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Woody is right, IR is the problem with forge fires *NOT* UV so O-A welding goggles in the lighter shades are generally suggesed not Arc goggles. If you want to research it loog for "Glass blowers Cataracts" This is also one of the reasons I don't like gas forges to be at "eye level" I want to discourage myself from looking in as much as possible. Once a gas or solid fuel forge comes up to temp you should have a pretty good feel for how long a piece will take to come to the right temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candidquality Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 You've actually noticed the IR quite a few times looking at pictures of hot things taken with (cheap) cameras. Anytime you see a purple glowing rod, it's from the IR. Actually one of the easiest ways to see it is pictures taken from a cell phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Take your TV remote.. and your cell phone camera (other digital camera with LCD screen may work too) and point the remote at the camera lense and press a button.. you will see the IR LED light up and blink. I use my shade 5 OA goggles sometimes when I'm heating up. I think I need to use it more. (doesn't help I use the OA torch for heating) Might get one that has the flip up lense so I can see easier when hammering. You can see the steel start to get glossy then it goes liquid. Easy to see with the shade 5. Just remember that things are hotter than they appear through the goggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Take your TV remote.. and your cell phone camera (other digital camera with LCD screen may work too) and point the remote at the camera lense and press a button.. you will see the IR LED light up and blink. I use my shade 5 OA goggles sometimes when I'm heating up. I think I need to use it more. (doesn't help I use the OA torch for heating) Might get one that has the flip up lense so I can see easier when hammering. You can see the steel start to get glossy then it goes liquid. Easy to see with the shade 5. Just remember that things are hotter than they appear through the goggles. Yeah Ihad to get used to the heat judgement thing, but i was working steel too cold anyway lately for some reason, so it worked out hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backyardsmith Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Take your TV remote.. and your cell phone camera (other digital camera with LCD screen may work too) and point the remote at the camera lense and press a button.. you will see the IR LED light up and blink. i just did that and it worked i saw the led light up that was kinda neat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 So, how many people have the goggles to protect their eyes and how many people have them so thay can wave around some glowing chunk or steel, cackling like mad, cutting a perfect Mad Scientist figure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quenchcrack Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I have safety glasses, full goggles and a face mask for various applications as may be needed. Since I actually AM a Mad Scientist, I do not feel the need for props. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 So, how many people have the goggles to protect their eyes and how many people have them so thay can wave around some glowing chunk or steel, cackling like mad, cutting a perfect Mad Scientist figure? I have for both hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbear Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I use them for safety but the mad scientist thing is really appealing. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTheBlacksmith Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 wow so many people really do black smith with just a hammer and torch huh ? Its like back in the day, there were no ovens or high-tech kilns. Or handheld torches that get to 4000 degrees. Im a noob, concerned with safety!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Not a thing wrong with safety. It allows you to grow old enough to learn other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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