Ric Furrer Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=184163436154365665# The above video is quite wonderful...great technique and a display of mastery of a technique. I wish we had more documented cases of this sort...old masters simply...working. Apparently he began his apprenticeship at age 13. Ric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry H Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 the interesting thing many of you noobs should pay attention to is he mainly used only the hammer and anvil,.....not a bunch of dies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 He sure makes it look easy. Wonder how long it took him to learn how to do that. Really nice work!! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Thanks, Ric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Ric Thanks Very interesting technique hard to tell if this was always the traditional French way of making these or if it is a newer 19th century method. The 17th century English method was to forge the finger loops by drawing out, wrapping over and welding at the shank just behind the joint area since the short grain of iron would not allow punching and stretching. Then much smaller pieces of steel were laid on in the manner used for making draw knives for the cutting edges. It seems to me that his method might have been devised in a later period when steel became less costly and mild steel superseded wrought iron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Furrer Posted February 12, 2011 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 Ric Thanks Very interesting technique hard to tell if this was always the traditional French way of making these or if it is a newer 19th century method. The 17th century English method was to forge the finger loops by drawing out, wrapping over and welding at the shank just behind the joint area since the short grain of iron would not allow punching and stretching. Then much smaller pieces of steel were laid on in the manner used for making draw knives for the cutting edges. It seems to me that his method might have been devised in a later period when steel became less costly and mild steel superseded wrought iron. Oh, to be sure...if material is scarce I would think he would have wadded up the shears from whatever was around...I have seen hinges and some axes which looked like lumps of clay with globs put here and there as needed. For what you can get out a single small bit i suggest you have a look at the Bulldog shovel video.....and SMITHY1...have a look at what a whole host of dies and tools can accomplish: I'd like to work there for a few days to see all the forging tools in action. About the time I get all the tools I want I'll sell them and retire. Japanese stuff as well: http://web.mac.com/nami_aru/Daiku/いらっしゃい.html four videos in there. Anyone got anything similar...I'd like to see them...maybe something European again? Ric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbcreative Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 It was interesting that the japanese work out of a tub in the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyshackleford Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I love these sorts of videos. Seems like there was one on Japanese scissor making but I can' find it :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBower Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thanks very much, Ric. There were at least a dozen things I noticed in that vid that made me say, "wow" or "cool." Not least of them being the efficiency and power with which he wielded his hammer -- at the age of 90! I wonder how many sets he had to make before he no longer found himself saying, "ah, dang, I made that left-handed!" and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Joseph, is this the one that you are talking about? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5LwkJEXos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBower Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thanks very much, Ric. There were at least a dozen things I noticed in that vid that made me say, "wow" or "cool." Not least of them being the efficiency and power with which he wielded his hammer -- at the age of 90! I wonder how many sets he had to make before he no longer found himself saying, "ah, dang, I made that left-handed!" and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DClaville Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 nice vids of of them i also love watching such vids ill look around in my ocean of links and post what i find heres one site there is a few vids in the vid section My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 AMAZING!! and it only took him three hours!! that is practice there.. That man has surely made hundreds of them! That is the type of person that won't stop forging till he bits the dust! Inspirational! alec thank you so much for posting that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBower Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 A question about the Japanese vids. In this one, how on earth did he keep the face on when he heated it for welding? http://web.mac.com/nami_aru/Daiku/Genno.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen56 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 how amazeing are these folk,i thought i was sort of handy on the forge ,still got the L plates on for sure ,great insite :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Furrer Posted February 14, 2011 Author Share Posted February 14, 2011 A question about the Japanese vids. In this one, how on earth did he keep the face on when he heated it for welding? http://web.mac.com/nami_aru/Daiku/Genno.html I was wondering what that powder was as well. I know they use boric acid in the mix, but it sure was sticky.........I'll look into it. Ric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyshackleford Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Joseph, is this the one that you are talking about? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5LwkJEXos That's it George! thanks a ton. Keep them coming fellas :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBower Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I was wondering what that powder was as well. I know they use boric acid in the mix, but it sure was sticky.........I'll look into it. Ric Thanks, ric, that'd be very cool to know. I have some hammer sized wrought that I've never played with, because I didn't like any of the ideas I had for holding the face in place for welding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old N Rusty Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 just when i start thing i am too old... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old N Rusty Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 I just cannot stop watching this video. One time to see product, another to see all i can of shop and tools. another to try to pick up hints that are in his technique, too subtle to be mentioned in commentary. See how he goes to hardy and hammer is there to steady work before he strikes, and so much more to see, that tool that is in the hardy hole when he brings weld together, whats it called? what is it for? and the scarf on cold piece. what a MASTER ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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