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Goods, (David) where are the photos of your completed work?  

that there is very cool..   It's great when things of interest can be manifested.  Seeing items like this inspire for sure. 

Job well done. 

BillyO splendid. 

Frosty,  very much hit or miss depending on the person at the counter.  But, no harm in trying.  

1 minute ago, JHCC said:

Ah, but the knowledge itself is not diminished.  Rather, they diminish themselves who choose not to accept it or put it to use. 

I wish it were just that.  

Like said..     If knowledge is shared and not understood..  Most if not all will lend credence to the lack of understanding. 

With enough misunderstanding "knowledge" is left in the dirt and dismissed. 

There is always the "ideal"..     What you wrote is an "ideal"  or words to live by.. 

In all it's just semantics.   Or lets play a game.. 

Your not wrong..   It's not a matter or being right or wrong.  It's simple in human complication.  

Not my cleanest work, but trying something out. 

8 hours ago, JHCC said:

Knowledge is not diminished by being shared. 

Depends on who the information is shared with. 

I used to believe this very thing. 

I find people are very stubborn to change.  Especially if there is a simpler way. 

People love complex. 

BillyO, nice forging. 

Frosty, quality it quality, knowledge is knowledge..   If there is something to learn then it's needed to share, again, and again, and again. 

People have extremely short memories of good things.   Horrendously long with bad things.  (perceived bad or otherwise).

Well it's been some time since an update..  Been busying with other things in an attempt to get caught up some with other things on the list. 

Hikerjohnson came down last weekend for some course instruction on an upcoming class he is assisting with.  While here he mentioned that I might really want to look into pallet racks and to do it sooner than later..  

I asked him how he was stack the shelves I have and he laughed and said he would not recommend it..    

I've picked up several new to me pieces of equipment of note was a "Cincinnati Monoset Tool Grinder".   This is a very good tool grinder. 

It started when I wanted to use the pantograph thinking I had bits and I did not have the right sized ones..  So I went online to look for a tool sharpener for the pantographs..  Deckel SO were in the 2-4K range..  

I then searched FB market place and this grinder I had seen at 3k and dismissed it.   When I looked again it was half that. 

I spent about 40hrs cleaning it and the work holder drive motor. 

Ordered some of the missing parts.. 

Today was the first time running the machine and I have a lot to learn.  

Worked on sharpening this drill bit that had nearly 3/8" off of one side.  I then tried to split point it.   Lots to learn. 
 

Frosty, that is the air shear.  They forge 4 bits at a time.. they cut them into 2, 2bit sections before the bar goes back in the electric oven. 

I'm teaching a "forge welding" class up at Haystack Mountain Craft Center in a month and member Hikerjohnson here, is going to be my assistant.. 

So Saturday he came down to go over course outline and to show him how I work these projects out..  I made the item, then HikerJ's turn..  These of the sample pieces I forged.  

We made really good time.. Hiker (AKA  Eric) is a smith on his own right and runs a shop up in Maine

 

You bet.. 

Not really sure which photo you are referring too..  There is a pneumatic shear that is in one photo. 



 On the right side of the hammers, The shrouded foot pedal is the electric/pneumatic activator on the hammers.. No foot treadle.. (Foot treadles are not osha approved)

Was very interesting..     I was told that most of the hammers are worn out..   This was before I saw the operation.. 

Closed die hammers need a very tight running tolerance..  Open die hammers not so much..   I mentioned this to the engineer..    I'd be happy to have one of the hammers show up at the school.. 

These are drop hammers power up only..     The really big hammer is a hydraulic/pneumatic hammer and has power up and power down. 

Few days back I went to what is left of the Simond's forge shop.     Simonds was a huge company..  Not so much now.  

Like many American born and raised company's who found a footing and lost their way. 

 

Hey,  in todays market it might be a good move to pass it along. 

Your journey has been pretty amazing and have done such a great job at setting up your shop.. 

I still have my first real anvil HB 175lb and have had it nearly 40 yrs.. 

Rojo pedro that looks great.. 

Thanks for the nice compliments on the Compass..   

I needed a hand crank for my Wisconsin engine.  

At the filming session the owner was kind enough to turn a wooden handle to go over the steel sleeve..  The sleeve was then glued into the wood. 

Great idea there Mr Frosty with the pig tail.. 

John, Looking good..  I wasn't sure where you were going with those pads with the hooks on them but it all came to light. 

Looks great..  Your getting good at the woopytydoos. 

I spent some time again at the "Moses Wilder Blacksmithing shop" in Bolton MA filming for the EAIA on compasses out of the Patterns book. 

My first one is complete..  I made a few pieces trying to figure out how they were commercially made but once that was done it went pretty well..    

Wrought iron with rasp steel tips.   I should throw it in the acid while it's still so clean..   Never thought about that till now. 

Not my cleanest work.  Decent for number1. 

 

Gewoon Ik,  Hey, your making some progress.. Very nice..  6mmX 20mm starting stock? 

I forged out most the parts for an Air cooled Wisconsin hand crank start lever. 

Was only going to forge the socket (1" ID) but then was having too much fun.. 



 

David is this unit going to be use to Baton thru bone also?   

Years ago when I was "into" knives I had looked into cleavers thinking there was only 1 type..   14/15yrs old. 

I soon learned there were many types..   

I had gone to an old meat processing place and seeing their cleavers and the edges was educational. 

They would saw thru larger bones.. The cleavers were used for joint separation and any soft to hard tissue junction.  (knees, hocks, shoulders, ribs). 

I'll be super interested to hear how the 8670 holds up against the cutting of the bones.. 
 

gewoon ik,  very nice pineapple handle. 

David, love the shape and handle.  Is this a thick cleaver for processing large pieces or a thin blade? 

Any course is a good course..   

The ABANA course is based on the CBA course layout but reworked slightly.  It's a great course and covers nearly all the bases for an Artist blacksmith. 

The course outline is on the ABANA website which has been upgraded fantastically over the last few years. 


https://abana.org/education/

There are a lot of talented and skilled smith involved with ABANA...   The reason why I said it that way is because of how approachable these longer term/skilled smiths are.  

The next ABANA meet is in JUne.  

Sound or reverb depends a lot on how the anvil is resting.. 

If the reverb when struck is dampened it won't ring much.   It's the reason people put magnets and such on anvils. 

 

The guy who owns the place can be hard to get a hold of. 

Your best bet is to FB message him, or email him at the work email address.. 

This time of year he travels..  

He is a really great person..   
You can also try to message him here on IFI. 

Swedefiddle, you beat me to it. 

Wanna forge a hammer..  Watch the video on making a Hot set or Handled hot chisel. 

Forging an accurate eye in is not difficult..     

The hardest part is where to place the hammer eye hole for weight balance..   But if you forge the peen first it becomes a no brainer since one should ideally know what they want for balance in the hammer. 

I have great respect for "Brian Brazeal" and his method of hammer making popularized by everyone and their Grandmother..  

I'm not a huge fan of slot punching unless its needed for thin metal.   Unless you are using thin metal slotting and punching for hammer eyes is way over rated and you need a lot of extra tooling. 

If you punch the eye round and ovalize it, it's a 2 step process and can have a finished hammer in just over an hour depending on hammer size.. 

There is no reason to drill multiple holes..    Draw out the peen to the desired size, cool off the piece slowly, drill one smallish hole (THE SIZE OF YOUR FIRST PUNCH)where you want to run your first punch thru, then follow it up with larger sizes until you see the hammer handle eye size you like.. 



 

1 hour ago, Goods said:

To me it looked like the AI lost track of you when you moved to fast across and out of it’s field of view. I did like the effect/feel of the video while it was performing well.

I’m always impressed how you produce such clean forgings so quickly. Even breaking down/drawing out that 1-1/4” 4140 without even having to dress back any fish mouthing. Could really be miss leading to a new blacksmith, but I know how much work and skill that takes!

Thanks..

The Obsbot tail is supposed to be able to film sports and such so fast movements are not much of a problem when working right.   Not sure what the deal is.. 

Ok, so keeping the good tracking footage in is ok?    Not to long of a video?    Those extra 2 to 5min reheat times do add up in overall video length.. 

David, there are a bunch of things I learned over the years..  Seeing them implemented in person can help see a different experience.  There are a lot of things I learned I don't have to do if I do X first.  

Not sure if it was clear in the video but pulled the long sides in as a preform before thinning the blade itself.   Pinching the metal from the inside out eliminates the tendency to fish mouth and the preform helps minimize corrections to width.

yes, it could be misunderstood or help the newer smith see there is a way to do it, without all the prep most do. 

There is a good reason to take classes with schooled and knowledgeable people..  It can really open a new understanding. 

I like seeing effective and efficient forging.  I'll keep working at it. 

Frosty I'm not skilled enough to clog and forge at the same time..   

I have no idea how the camera tracks..  I do know this was a new thing vs the original model which never had this problem..    This newer model is very fancy compared to the original Tail camera. 

The video tracking was good to about 35min then it drifted..  I caught it and eliminated it by 41min in..   But since this camera was in charge of sound the sound dropped off and the volume has to be raised.. 

Your tolerance for shaky camera footage must be low.. Visual disturbances can be tough..  You might do better with a single camera position without the switching..