I broke five inch Chinese vise that had a nice look, external machining and finish. I was trying to hold a piece of half inch cold rolled to thread for a farm repair. I could not crank it hard enough to hold the work....eventually something cracked on the inside due to poor alignment of major parts. I did not hammer on the bar, but it failed with just my own strength. The timing timing wasn't good for finding a good local inexpensive vise, but did buy a nearly new Wilton C 3 for 850. It weighs more than my Peter Wright anvil but it gives me confidence now when I step into the shop. At about half price, I can use it for free. The local Amish say: "Iron never loses it's value." Last week I found a beefy decent quality four inch Taiwanese bullet vise for ten dollars at a garage sale...sorta evens things out.