yeah good point, they are verry thick blades that must be part of the reason they are so strong, also i was looking at a busse combat destruction test earlier, i think it was one called the busse combat battle mistress, man they made that thing cut through 5mm metal pipe, pounded it through bricks and rocks and in the end, the busse had barely any damage at all, i would love to own one but they are just a bit out of my price range, same with striders, w/e thanks for the reply, ttyl