Black Frog

Wondering what you've seen the going rates for a decent shape H-frame fly press, big style like the Hopkins 20 ton (not sure of the rating)...
Similar to this one, this is from Ron Reil's flypress page, the blue Hopkins:

http://ronreil.abana.org/hopkins4.jpg

I see them listed at $1600 - $2000+ on ebay, but I'm guessing that at places like the Quad State tailgate you might find better pricing.
What have you seen for something similar to pictured above?

......that's one toy a kid can't break. ;)

Using a friends Mac that has the pro version of Photoshop I believe.... Not 100% positive though- That's all he does is work with photos and editing.
I'm no photo guru, I'm a hack. But when I'm motivated to find information, I'll go to my best resources.

Turning the crosshead over is sometimes a good thing but, you have to watch that the connecting links don't hit the wrap around guide. That guide is cast iron will break easily and is not avaible from Sid.

I just talked to Sid and he mentioned watching out for this too- I sent him some pictures for him to look at and he would provide any pointers he can notice.
He said I should use my 1.5hp motor on it.
This old girl was made in 1939, sold to a Henry Guelig in New Holstein, Wisconsin.
I think this hammer has spent its entire life in the cheesehead state...

Definitely worth your time.
Surface rust doesn't mean much- anvil looks to be in quite nice shape.
Older Peter Wright before the 'England' stamp was included. If the price is right I'd jump on it.
1-0-16 = 128lbs.

What is a fair price? That depends on where you are, and the availability of other anvils in your area of the country.
Some people get lucky and pay $1/pound or less, and others pay $3/pound or higher....

Make the guy an offer of $125 and see what he says? Can't hurt to ask.

I'm tempted to buy one to stick in the corner and look pretty till I move in two years.
I gotta stick to anvils and a forging press to keep the neighbors happy.

That's kind of where I am too- I'm finding awesome deals too good to pass up even though I may not be able to use them right now.
When I do move, I know I would be mad at myself looking back if I had passed up buying some of these things....

Gotcha, thanks for the tip!

I have a 3/4hp and a 1.5hp I could use for this.
3/4 too light?

Perhaps low angle lighting and good digital photography and then messing with contrast and maybe even digital photo enhancement software is all I can guess.

That's exactly how I figured out the 'no-name' anvil I was looking at on the net was actually an A&H.
Seller said it didn't have any markings. After asking for some closeup photos, I could see some markings- I had a hunch what it was, messing around with some nice photo editing sofware confirmed it.

J. Wood Aston & Co I believe it should read.....

Stourbridge.

Three hour drive each way to go get the new LG 25# hammer of the transitional style.

Having never been converted over to electric motor- It doesn't look like it has seen much use or abuse.
Looked like decades of non-use.

Once I got home I gave her a quick wipe down to get a better look at things.
With just a quick shot of oil she spins nicely using one hand.... :)

Think the dies are original?

You can thank me for this one if you do buy it!

I passed on this anvil when I was getting my big A&H......
If I remember correctly, I recall the seller saying he had faced the surface a bit.
I think it was listed at $700 then.

Are we sure it's a Fisher? The casting flaws around the horn are much more common in Vulcans.

I was wondering that too..... Maybe Josh will weigh in here with some input.
The one in the ebay auction is the same type, markings, and looks as the one Timothy Miller posted pictures of that I linked to.
They both have the indentation of the base below the heel also.

The auction I linked to in the first post, the seller thinks that 11 pounds is the smallest they made, and I suppose his basis for wanting such a premium price.

After poking around a bit, I found a 10# Fisher mentioned on this forum that went for $420:

http://www.iforgeiron.com/topic/27103-10-pound-anvil-drawing-420-on-ebay/

And Timothy Miller found one even smaller marked "00" on the feet at around 5 pounds:

http://www.iforgeiron.com/topic/23169-a-5-lb-fisher-anvil/

11 pound Fisher for $1850, he believes it to be the smallest made by Fisher.....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fisher-0-Anvil-Blacksmith-Forge-11-lb-Baby-Fisher-Excellent-Condition-/140807689440?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c8cad4e0

Now that it's upright, I can move it relatively easily.
I have a set of equipment skates, and I use a Jo-bar to put the skates under each foot on one end, and then use the jo-bar on the other and for pushing and steering.

My biggest problem now is lack of room.....
I need to move.

Table was delivered last night- it was loaded in a van plate side down and legs in the air.
He brought along his dismantled engine/shop crane. Once we put the crane together, we put some chains through the leg supports, put the boom arm going in the van and lifted it 6" or so.

Drove the van forward and then let the table down with one side on a stump.
Problem was with that much weight in the top plate, it was a chore trying to get this flipped upright.
Took some different approaches with combiantions of the crane, my floor jack, jack stands, wood blocks, but we finally got her upright. :)
You can see the scrape marks on the cement just from moving it a bit... she is a heavy girl!

I'm a happy with my purchase!

You'd better put an extra $20 in the church plate.... ;)

Well, once AGAIN I gotta keep of CL. I saw this one pop up, and knew I would kick myself if I let it pass by.

I guess this old girl has a new home now, I believe this is the 'transitional model' from all I've read....

Here's that 5x3 table at the seller's place when I looked at it.
I couldn't budge it. Has a nice 2.5" trough around the edge of the 1" plate made from 1/4" steel.

I've found Sid's video on the differences:

But wondering if some owners here can share pulses or minuses of one style or the other.

*edit, thanks KYBOY, beat me before I hit the submit button....

Looking more at little giants. Wondering if there is a preference between the old style or new style hammers?

Wondering what this mfg is- never saw one like it:

I think I would use a much thinner top on the mobile table, and mount that 1 inch plate somewhere you can pound on, or weld, or otherwise abuse it if needed.

Funny you mention that.... I gotta stay off CL.
I came across a table I couldn't resist last week.

5'x3' table with 1" thick plate top in beautiful shape @ around 1000lbs.

$190.

Seller will deliver it for an extra $20.

how do you say no to that?

.....So yes, I actually DO have something else to bang on besides the anvil and my little mobile roller table pictured. ;)

Here's the table I bought for this. 1" thick plate welded to the top, the top plate does not quite cover the entire table. The full table dimensions are 24"x24"
Quite substantial for its size....

Thought I'd mount the forge off the side where the pipe vise is now.
The cast iron casters roll nicely in spite of the weight on them. I thought by mounting my gas forge to the side of this table, it would allow me to roll it out of the way when not in use. It would also give me a 'table' next to the forge at all times that can handle red-hot pieces.

This seem like a good idea?

Thanks guys, I was thinking about something like Dave's sketch.
I'll have to post some pics of the little rolling table I got for the purpose of mounting a forge to it....