I got my 225 or so pound Hay-Budden from my step-father. He showed me the basics and I took off from there. I get a phone call a year or 2 after I started and he says "You're going to be better than I ever will, come get all my tools." A short list is a 225 Hay-Budden, a 175 or so Hay-Budden, a pair of mint Yater blocks, bunch of tongs, 2 forges, and a bunch of other stuff. Got rid of the 175 Hay-Budden-it was kind of beat, still have the other stuff and use it all.