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Refractories in Canada?

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I'm looking to build my first forge and am having trouble finding a good refractory. All the ones at local stores are either rated 2200F, or don't come in large quantities. PSH has a 50lb tub listen on their website but no heat rating. Does anyone have any recommendations for a refractory that'll go on top of kaowool located in Ontario?

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2 hours ago, pnut said:

Iforgeiron sells forge supplies. Pm Glenn 

Pnut

Alright, thanks. Just need to double check math quick for how much i'd actually need.

Assuming 90lb per cubic foot, which i believe that kastolite 30 is, my math is as follows:
 

Arch
6" radius
- wool = 4"
0.5" of refractory
3.5" tall

301.44 Total Volume
230.79 Inner Volume
70.65 Difference

Walls x2
12"L x 4"H
48 Total

Floor
12" x 12" x 3"
- wool = 12"x12"x1"

144 Total

274.65 cu IN total
350 cuIN 30% safety

Which would mean I would need about 20lb of refractory if my math is correct.

Attached is a rough drawing of the forge. Black is kaowool, gray is refractory, yellow is my burner

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I think the ceramic blanket only needs to be two inches thick. Two one inch layers. I don't think more really improves performance. 

Pnut

3.75 lbs. of   Kast o lite 30 will cover one square foot at a depth of 1/2 inch. I didn't check your math but here is one more data point just to make sure your calculations are correct. Good luck.

Pnut

 

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On 9/23/2019 at 6:27 PM, pnut said:

I think the ceramic blanket only needs to be two inches thick. Two one inch layers. I don't think more really improves performance. 

Yea, i'm only using 2" blanket, then covering with 1/2" of refractory. Read that anything more will act as a heat sink and take awhile to actually heat up.

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Good Morning,

Go to an Ontario Artist Blacksmith Association meeting. Any of their members will tell you where to purchase what you need, locally. If you can't find their web-site, PM me and I will send you the information.

Neil

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Mr. Tsugeta,

You aver that you are located in "Ontario", Canada.

That information is not too informative.

The province is enormous.

The Distance between Kenora Ontario,  (near the Ontario-Manitoba border)  and Kingston Ontario. on the Saint Lawrence river is 928 miles.  A robust two day drive.

The distance between Windsor - Detroit and Hudson Bay Ontario,  is 610 miles. (as the crow flies).

I suggest that greater specificity of your whereabouts would be of value to members near you.

SLAG.

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Great,

I lived in Mississauga,  ("west" Toronto),  for several years.

Also,  Hamilton,  Ottawa,  London,  K-W,  Sudbury  long ago.

I miss those days.

Welcome to I.FI. ,  

SLAG.

You can find me in St. Louis these days.

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I found a place in Smithville (~40 min west of Niagara Falls) that sells Mizzou for $45CAD per 55lb bag. They only sell minimum of 55lb bag, but it's $0.88 per lb. It's the manufacturing plant that sells them so they've just gotta take some information down before you can buy. here's the link for anyone else
https://thinkhwi.com/products/mizzou-castable-plus/

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