GrumpyBiker Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I’m at a point where I’m looking for a new propane double burner forge. I have two single burners I built but I’m looking one that I can pack up and travel with. I’m not looking to build and the NC forges under $1,000 all seem to have very small openings and geared more for farriers. I’ve found a couple that caught my eye and am interested in whether anyone on here has an opinion or experience with them. I want one with doors and really like the idea of a large side door vs the doors on the ends. I don’t make knives but am not ruling those out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey98118 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Try looking in the propane forge section of eBay for best deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I don't care for the untreated ceramic blanket liner nor the fire brick floor in the last picture. I don't know anything about the burners but the over long intake port doesn't say good things to me. I understand not wanting to build, I'm starting to get tired of it myself but finding something I can afford is a problem. I have to ditto Mike's suggestion. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyBiker Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 All but the first pic are forges on Flea-bay. I have my eye on this guy on FB from Texas but when you add the track for fire brick doors ($50) you’re at $500 + shipping. sigh.... I have Kaowool & a gallon of rigidizer. I may just end up building yet another. Image removed due to advertising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 You might look up Forgemaster Blacksmith forge. I used one several times and it is a very good forge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyBiker Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 I will go look at them right now. What kind of a reputation does Devil Forge have? I see their forges ship with the rigidizer I’ll be stopping by Yoders Blacksmith Supplies tomorrow to see if they have any used forges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 The rigidizer and flame face liner shipped with Devil Forge isn't getting good reviews here. Other than that they seem to work pretty well. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyBiker Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 I have a gallon of Simwool Rigidizer Any opinion on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyBiker Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 No one has experience with this product?’!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I THINK Mikey just said something about it. Not impressed IIRC. Maybe ask him. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey98118 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I think this 'rigidizer' is based on sodium silicate, which sells for a higher price than colloidal silica ( probably because of government regulations on its shipment), and melts at 1900 F. Colloidal silica (fumed silica in water) can be obtained far more cheaply, and is use rated on ceramic fiber products at 2300 F. Sodium silicate makes an excellent adhesive to glue together Perlite into monolithic forms for secondary insulation, but has been out of date for rigidizing ceramic fiber since the sixties. I read their product ads, and have concluded that there is a good chance that the "ignorance tax" is being added onto their pricing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyBiker Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 Well it appears then that I once again, should have come here and asked before buying! Thank you for the schooling on rigidizers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey98118 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 If you have already purchased their product, you might consider holding on for it for other purposes, which are many with sodium silicate, including waterproofing concrete, and for constructing sand cores for aluminum castings; also as glue for monolithic structures constructed of Perlite, which can be very handy as secondary insulation, and as insulated equipment bases. Fumed silica can be purchased for little additional expense, and will do a far better job of rigidizing ceramic fiber; it is also far easier to use for the purpose. When handed a lemon, its best to make lemonade... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I picked up fumed silica at a plastics supplier, it's commonly used to thicken resin glues and casts, 8 oz. filled a quart can and cost maybe $10. IIRC. I figure 1/4 cup will more than rigidize my next forge liner. I just kept adding till I like it last time and didn't measure. A place that sells marine supplies is another good source, it's used extensively in boat hulls and fixtures. If you're looking for evacuated silica spheres like in Kastolite bubble refractory it's used to make light weight concrete, check with a concrete mix/batch plant. 1 hour ago, Mikey98118 said: When handed a lemon, its best to make lemonade... When given a lemon I prefer to squeeze a little in a paper cut. I see your Allan Dean Foster and raise you a "Princess Bride" reference! Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey98118 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 That was a classic; scenes from it frequently tickle my brain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I love that movie. Ever notice how often I say do, "as you wish" here? EG, It's your anvil do with it as you wish. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey98118 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Consider what he meant by it, I ain't touching that line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buzzkill Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Inconceivable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Allo? Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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