Peppie Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 The upsidedown triangle has the letter C inside of it. Anyone have some info ?? weight is 233#, Face in good condition. Is this anvil forged, with a hardened plate on top? Is it soild all the way thru?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlblohm Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 It is a Columbian and is excellent cast steel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Columbian, Cast STEEL, good brand made in Cleveland OH. Solid Steel top to bottom---no plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlblohm Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 No hardened plate. It is solid steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 TY for the response guys. I am new to this game, and would like to buy a quality anvil at a fair price. The face looks to be in good condition. Very small limited chips on the edges. The seller is asking 4$ per pound. From my reasearch that is a fair price. Cant find a new 200# er for near that cost. Where would I find a 1/2'' to 1'' ball bearing to do a rebound test? Anything I should check for when I go to view it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Can't discuss the cost without knowing location---Singapore dollars? Canadian Dollars? Australian Dollars, American Dollars? All different. I think that's HIGH if American dollars and would have to know the location, condition, style---Columbian did some double horned anvils for instance, weight, etc Not know which of the 100+ countries participating on this forum on the World Wide Web all I can say is you can get large ball bearing other thataway. (however in the USA I'd suggest asking heavy equipment repair places, implement dealers, mechanics---especially truck mechanics) BTW did you read the thread on improvised anvils? there has been over 2000 years of blacksmiths smithing on things that don't look like a London Pattern Anvil and only about 200 years with them using London Pattern anvils in a fairly small subset of the world. Far better to buy a chunk of steel from the scrapyard to forge on and spend the $100's on a good postvise and tongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, ThomasPowers said: Can't discuss the cost without knowing location---Singapore dollars? Canadian Dollars? Australian Dollars, American Dollars? All different. I think that's HIGH if American dollars and would have to know the location, condition, style---Columbian did some double horned anvils for instance, weight, etc Not know which of the 100+ countries participating on this forum on the World Wide Web all I can say is you can get large ball bearing other thataway. (however in the USA I'd suggest asking heavy equipment repair places, implement dealers, mechanics---especially truck mechanics) BTW did you read the thread on improvised anvils? there has been over 2000 years of blacksmiths smithing on things that don't look like a London Pattern Anvil and only about 200 years with them using London Pattern anvils in a fairly small subset of the world. Far better to buy a chunk of steel from the scrapyard to forge on and spend the $100's on a good postvise and tongs. I am in the US. Just south of Seattle Wa. In this area I have seen Price per pound much higher than 4$. Thanks for the info on the ball bearing I will look into those location. It is not a double horn, I have pictures of it, and it is a London Pattern. ( I would post a pic.. but it is offered on CL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Are those high prices asking or selling prices? While you are in a higher priced area; have you used the TPAAAT? We do get reports of folks getting good anvils at substantially reduced prices by getting off the net and using TPAAAT. Buying anvils from folks trying to make money selling them is generally not the cheapest way to go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlblohm Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 You are in the perfect place to get a new anvil. Rhino, nimba, and mathewson metals anvils are all made in washington and reasonably priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 Maybe I am thinking about this all wrong. From what I have read and heard, the more mass under the hammer the better. So my thinking has lead me to believe that bigger is better. So now that boils down to Price per pound, old versus new. Are the new anvils that more superior in quality and material than the better known older anvils? Used in good condition Columbian 230# $920= $4 per pound. This new list I will add $100 on the price for shipping Mathewson 150# $950 = $6.30 per pound Rhino 240# $1460=$6.00 per pound Emerson 200# $1500=$7 per pound JHM 260# $1450= $5.50 per pound Nimba site is down But their 85# I beleive is approx $950 So I know we are in some ways comparing apples to peaches... but am I out in left feild here?? Is the Columbian that much of a lesser quality than the new ones to justify the price?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlblohm Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Not necessarily. There is a couple factors to take into consideration. Columbian anvils are known to be quite hard which has its ups and downs. Ups would be hard for it to take a dent from a missed blow but that missed blow might catch an edge and chip it. Newer anvils are tempered a little softer and the edges aren't as easy to chip but the face will take a dent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlblohm Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Any pictures of the Columbian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, JlBlohm said: Any pictures of the Columbian? Sure wish I could post some up. The seller is running an add on the local CL. From my understanding I am not allowed to post them up here. I have looked at hundereds of anvils on line and seen the conditions they are in. On a scale from 1-100 this one IMO is an 85. The face is flat. the chips on the edges are less than 1/8 '' and very sparse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 I believe there is nothing to prevent you from copying the CL photo from CL to your device and then posting the photo here. As I understand it this site does not exist to provide free advertising for others so by divorcing the photo from the sale you should be ok; Mods? (I even think it would meet fair use rules...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 39 minutes ago, ThomasPowers said: I believe there is nothing to prevent you from copying the CL photo from CL to your device and then posting the photo here. As I understand it this site does not exist to provide free advertising for others so by divorcing the photo from the sale you should be ok; Mods? (I even think it would meet fair use rules...) I was able to figure out how to post the pics see above. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Looks to be in excellent condition and should hang out at the upper end of the price range for your area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 6/3/2018 at 1:48 PM, Peppie said: I am in the US. Just south of Seattle Wa. We won't remember this once leaving this thread, hence the suggestion to edit your profile to show location because so many answers depend upon it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppie Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 9 hours ago, ThomasPowers said: Looks to be in excellent condition and should hang out at the upper end of the price range for your area. I thought the same thing. I am going to pounce!! 38 minutes ago, Irondragon Forge & Clay said: We won't remember this once leaving this thread, hence the suggestion to edit your profile to show location because so many answers depend upon it. There that's better. Done!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimNorman Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I have an anvil with an embossed (not raised) M on one side and the letter C in an inverted triangle on the other. I can carry it, but has to be in the hundred pound class, has a decent ring to it. Some chips and wear on the edges, face is pretty good. Wondering what I might have. Dad had it for many years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenforge Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Most Columbians that have an M are 100lbs according to AIA. The pictures don’t show the opposite side and it is hard to judge the size by the pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 C in a triangle is a Columbian, cast STEEL anvil, made in Cleveland Ohio and are considered *good* anvils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 20 hours ago, JimNorman said: Some chips and wear on the edges, Welcome aboard... have you read this yet? READ THIS FIRST It will help you get the best out of the forum with tips like editing your profile to show your location, how to post pictures and many others. I hope you have read about not doing any grinding, milling or welding on the hardened face. We would love to see pictures of your Columbian anvil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Edge damage is very common on anvils that were used; DON'T try to repair it! Cast anvils tend to be a bit more prone to it and anvils used for cold shoeing can get positively ridgeback. (I have a Vulcan like that on my wall of shame---collection of abused/damaged anvils.) Now I have attended several anvil repair days put on by a semi-local ABANA affiliate where folks who know how to properly repair anvils, (right preheat, right rod(s), right cooldown, etc) help others out. Watched a professional smith/weldor/welding instructor re build an anvil face that had been milled till it was worthless---took him 5 hours using industrial equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seant Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) I believe this to be a Colombian over 300 pounds. Any way to date it ? It’s a family piece so not currently being used. Edited December 21, 2021 by Mod30 Excessive quoting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Well a rough method is to see when the Company was in the anvil business. I'll see if Postman listed the dates for Columbian. Without a serial number, construction or configuration or logo change; it would be hard to narrow it down beyond that. Take care; it looks like that anvil has been cornered and they can be vicious in that situation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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