Bigred1o1 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 i recently got a Canadian forge and blower 700 blower that was disassembled and i am hoping someone here knows if there was supposed to be some sort of gasket between the blower bodied and the cap the case that goes over the gears it seems like it needs something to keep keep the oil from just draining out as well it had no handle when i picked it up so i jumped into my pile of scrap and came up with one that fits but i am hoping someone has a photo of what the handle should look like so i can keep an eye out over all i am looking forward to getting this forge back up and running the previous owner said it had not had a fire lit in it since 1985 i have done some browsing around and i cant find any real info on the company i am hoping to find some photos of what this forge set up should look like as i am hoping some brackets are missing sins there is quite a bit of wobble in the blower and firepot set up when you turn the crank the entire assembly is attached to the forge table with three bolts in a row so no side to side stabilization well even if there are not supposed to be any i have a feeling i will be add some as this is destined to become my portable forge and it never hurts to over build in my op well unless you are attempting to get the thing off the ground well thanks for your thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigred1o1 Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 i ended up just making a cork gasket and so far no leaks so i am happy now just to stabilize the blower and fire pot section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Greetings Big Red, Looks like you have a nice find .. The handle you found looks almost like the original.. I would just replace the set screw with a square headed one.. The air tube should have a bolt that goes through the pan which secures the firepot.. It should have a dove tail locking system to set the blower system .. All in the casting... You should be able to fab something to lock it in if its broken.. I hope this helps.. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigred1o1 Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 thanks Jim that means its all there just wobbly the blower and and firepot move as a unit side to side i might just have to see if i can get the firepot unbolted and see about truing up the sheet metal so that the firepot makes contact all the way around this might help with the wobble as to the set screw i will be popping it out the next time i have a forge fired up and put a square head on it it a real treat to find that the handle was a good fit i picked it up for a buck at a yard sale a year or so ago and dropped it in with the other older odds ends i keep in my you never know pile on a side note any idea what a forge like this is worth i know what i payed for it and it was a good deal even with the wear on the some of the blower parts and i am thinking i should come up with a good forged thank you project i can add in out of the blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Yaggy Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Cork is good, I've also used a bead of automotive silicone adhesive on blower housings with good results, clean well and let it fully cure before reintroducing oil. Did you pick that up down at Leigh's last month? Round here I've found that stand alone tools don't sell quite as well as kits, add an anvil and vise to that forge and your phone will ring off the hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Greetings again Red, I have many forges and have sold many.. In the Midwest that that would sell for the 300 to 400 range... Its a great portable forge with a good firepot.. The pan has enough room to add a nice side draft flu. A lot of them are full cast and heavy... I take the legs and put pipe unions in for easy removal to make it fit in the pickup with the cover on.. WORKS GREAT.. I'll bet you keep it.. Forge on and make beautiful things.. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigred1o1 Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 judson nope i got this from a guy that lives down the river from me he got it from a guy in Canada back in the early 70s so its moved about 40 miles south in the last 40 or so years i remembered seeing it in the basement of his barn a few years back when i was dropping off some logs for his sawmill and we got a bit distracted i was tempted to go the silicone adhesive rout but i came across a sheet or cork gasket material and thought it would be nice to put it back as close as i could to what used to be there the observations on the selling a blacksmithing kit is a great one i am going to have to keep in mind and see about fleshing one out jim the idea of of doing the pipe unions is a great one but i don't know if it would work with this forge body as it is a stamped sheet metal one but on the plus side it makes the hole thing light enough to just pick up and pop in the back of the truck as to the flu i was thinking along similar lines and i am just going to have to think on the best way to make one that is stable yet detachable and as you say i definitely see myself keeping i just need to mange to make some dry hay and then i hope to have the time to get her oiled up and fired up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McPherson Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Canadian Forge and Blower Co was a subsidiary of Buffalo Forge, starting in 1903. Parts should be interchangeable. http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigred1o1 Posted June 26, 2013 Author Share Posted June 26, 2013 thanks John GoG i will keep poking around looking for a catalog of forges and the like partly just out of curiosity as to what ells was or could be mounted in the different holes in the forge body i am very happy with a fix i came up with for the stabilizing the blower and firepot i removed them flattened out the warped sheet metal and when i re-bolted down the firepot i added angle iron brackets that are the same width as the firepot to replace the quarter sized washers that were present beforehand this really clamps the firepot in place and spreads out the stress from turning the crank on the blower over a larger aria i had some free time yesterday and decided to to fab up a removable side draft (its ugly but made entirely of scrap) the mouth is just sheet metal until i am sure i like the size of the opening then i will reinforce it the over all shape is fine but i wish there had been more room so i could have made the body deeper but between the need for clearance for the blower handle and not wanting to feed it to the fire pot what you see is what i could fit in feel free to recommend improvements all i have invested in it is some time and some fire on a side note i cant remember where on here i saw someone talking about cutting using welding rod but man did that com in handy when on a Sunday i realized i was out of oxygen so no cutting torch for me ( i have ten lb of bad rod that is about 8years old and very damp that worked like a charm) longwinded yes but some what productive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 My forge is made entirely outta scrap n probably the ugliest n the world except to me! That side draft would look great on it. What r the dimensions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Greetings Red, Looks like you got your little forge going your way. It will be a great demo unit.. One suggestion ... Make a small flip up canopy on the top of the flue opening .. They work great when adding green coal and if you have something big to forge you can flip it up out of the way.. Forge on and make beautiful things Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigred1o1 Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 sounds perfect jim i was debating how to finish off the opening that sounds like a perfect add on dcraven i will head out to the shop after finish up lunch and some computer work and do some measurements and toss em up here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigred1o1 Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 ok i took some photos and measurements and i am a visual person so i combined the 2 as well i forgot to have the pipe size in the photo this is set up for a 9inch pipe as a side note the mounting for the chimney was just some 1 1/2 piece of plat stock that i bent to the rough C shape i wanted fitted inside the pipe and tacked in place on one side and then bumped it over about a 1/8th of a inch and tacked the other side this gave me just enough play to take the chimney off and on when i move it i did add in some stove sement between the channel steel and the sheet metal as i hammered the sheet metal flat and i wanted to make sure that there were no leaks to steal my draw if you have any questions feel free to ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Wow! Thanks Bigred that was more information than I had hoped for, thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigred1o1 Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 glad i could help I am looking forward to seeing what yours ends up looking like it was kind of interesting to see what the specks were as i was lazy and could not find find a measuring tape when i made it i did it by eye (and some string) going by what would fit and making one side look like the other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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