john_zxz Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Hi, I have a problem with candle spikes ( sorry I don't know the name of that part, you'll see in the picture what I'm talking about). How in the old days did they make this part, the small spike where the candle sits on. When there is a scroll under the pan, you can make a tenon and rivet it from under, but like in the picture, I don't see how without arc welding. If someone has a clue, I'm taking it because I want to make candelabras like this one and I don't want to tack it. My stick welder, even at the lowest amperage is too powerful and burns a hole in half a second in a pan of 16 ga steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Entrance Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 If I'm understanding your question right, it looks to me like they made the spike from the end of the arm the dishes sit on. The dishes look like they have a hole in them that lets the spike come through, and then the dishes look like the sit on top of an upset/bulge/collar on the arm. That's what I see, anyway. Not that I know anything. I'm still a noob. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_zxz Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 Yes you understood right, but I wonder if the dish is solidely attached to the arm or just sitting loosely on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dablacksmith Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 the dish is solidly attached the pointed part goes thru the pan then a rivet set that is a little smaller than the hole thru the pan is used to pien over a bit of the spike ... hard to describe an kinda hard to get right but it can be done... helps if you make a sholdier for the pan to rest on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 The spike IS the tenon, and the pan is a "washer". I say washer because the pan has a small hole that gets forced over the spike. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryM Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 This will probably answer you question.http://www.iforgeiron.com/topic/23385-bp1019-riveting-a-cup-on-a-candle-holder-stick/ Hope this helps Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_zxz Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 Ahhhh! Thank you very much guys for the explanations. The BP Larry, explains everything very well. Now I need to make this new tool. Thanks again. John_zXz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Hi John, We know the "spikes" as prickets One of the problems with modern candles is there wicks have washers on at the base of the candles when they are made, Prickets can hit these washers and crack the candle, so take care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_zxz Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 Hi John, Thanks for the advise and for the name. I have one of those candle with a washer and worried a bit with them. I'll be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 You can also forge braze the pans onto the pricket, or if you are the type that likes that sort of thing you can end the shaft flat and drill and tap it and then forge the top of a bolt to the pricket and screw them together---shudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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