Ron Hicks Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I want to make a Smithing Magician and could have sworn I seen one in the Gallery but cant find it. Thanks Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Try this linkhttp://www.abana.org/downloads/education/guillotine.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J W Bennett Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Since they are loading BP's as fast as they can here is BP053 in PDF. Hope this was alright to do. If not someone will let me know I'm sure:>) JWBSmithing Magician BP0053 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Hicks Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 Thanks Bear & JWB That helps Ive got it about the right size. I am also wondering if it should set center of the anvil? I cut the sides from an I beam almost 1/2 in. thick and have an old blade from a road grader thinking about making the dies out of it- also 1/2 thick. Im gona try cutting with a torch 2 in strip from the blade and then heating in forge to flatten. Is 1/8 in heavy enough for the bottom plate that sits on the anvil? I may end up with a big mess Maybe I should have bought new materail instead of junkin Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J W Bennett Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Ron, I would go at least 1/4 on the bottom plate 3/8 if you have any, especially if you are going to center it on the mass of the anvil. I built mine out of scrap and ended up with a monster but it works good. If your like me you'll make "adjustments" as you go. John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesteryearforge Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Ron send me your address thats good for UPS ( no po box ) and the size you are after and ill send you a piece of 1/2 plate. These things can take a pretty good pounding if you get excited and the thicker the bottom plate the better off you are. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Hicks Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 Thanks guys Ill get something thicker I just thought the 1/8 would work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I built a smithing magician type tool (different design) and after a week had beat it to death, literally. I rebuilt the same design and used 1/2" stock materials everywhere. The 1-1/4 round bar I used for the hammer striking surface mushrooms like the top of a chisel does, so I keep it dressed on a regular basis. This is a consumable item and can be replaced if needed. Attach the hardie post so the impact area is kept over the heavy part of the anvil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primtechsmith Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 you can also extend the life of these tools by using a brass hammer. The softer hammer will decrease the mushrooming by a bunch! Mike has a chop fuller that has had many years of work on it and by using a softer hammer the striking area is hardly mushroomed at all. My 2cents... Peyton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 the one I made was 3/8 plate on the bottom and 1 inch angle iron to hold the dies. Should have used thicker angle, reinforced the small stuff with bar stock mig welded in place. Still trying to figure the best shape for the dies. I used a spring fuller most of the time, was thinking of making round and square dies to use in the guilotine. what shapes get used the most in the work of others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Hicks Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 Im trin to go heavy duty with what I have on hand- its all out of 1/2 in. I cut from an I beam. The dies are cut from a roadgrader blade-man was that some rank stuff to cut with a torch PU! The grader blade has a good amount of carbon in it ( sparks when grinding) the dies are 2 in. wide X 1/2 in. thick & will weld on some mild steel on top. I need to cut a base plate and ready to weld it together I will cut the dies into and shape after its together. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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