windancer Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Thank you again, for sharing your knowledge and experience with us and for taking all the extra time with this. I loved the two tools from your last work with the chain! Danged if I would n't just make a few more tools that I would use. Can't get that hammer out of my head. I have 4 Bailey hammers that I love and use. So another hammer in a different style would fit right in. I use a scribe in the shop- a Damascus scribe would be gorgeous! And you would feel the satisfaction of this billet every time you used the tools. Dividers wojuld be cool, too. Rein rigs would be a hoot! Bet you would get great satisfaction when folks visit your shop and see the tools you made [i sure would!]. What ever tools you use would be the perfect projects. Again, my sincere thanks- you have allowed me another avenue to express myself, too. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciladog Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 I still have the billet from this thread. I haven't yet decided what it will be. Heirloom and legacy tools are always a rewarding project for me. I make these strike knives out of about 20 layers of old high carbon bandsaw blades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua.M Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 you should make a hand saw B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agita Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Just jumping in to say how epic this thread is. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciladog Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 Just jumping in to say how epic this thread is. Thanks for sharing. I do thank you for your comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Lodge Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Ciladog, Maybe I missed this in one of the beginning posts, but how do you prevent the scale build up between the pieces you've tacked together? Do you just wire brush the billet real good between fluxing, or hasn't this been a real issue? I was just curious if this has any affect on the billet welding together properly. Thanks, Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciladog Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 Ciladog, Maybe I missed this in one of the beginning posts, but how do you prevent the scale build up between the pieces you've tacked together? Do you just wire brush the billet real good between fluxing, or hasn't this been a real issue? I was just curious if this has any affect on the billet welding together properly. Thanks, JeffScale is really not an issue. It’s kind of like refining wrought iron from a bloom. All the junk just gets squeezed out if you forge at a hot enough temp. I do flux with borax each time I take a heat and that liquefies the scale so it squeezes out. But you have to work from one end to another without trapping the impurities so you don't get inclusions. You need a very light hand on the hammer when you start. All you want to do is stick the chain together. It is surprising how little force it takes. As all the spaces close, you can be more aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I can tell you this stuff get's HARD, more then enough for a knife which, what a coincidence, I just finished up last night from that piece you gave me Craig :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Lodge Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Do you work the billet down from the end you have the bar welded to or from the tip back to the bar, or doesn't it really matter so long as you work one way only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciladog Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 I can tell you this stuff get's HARD, more then enough for a knife which, what a coincidence, I just finished up last night from that piece you gave me Craig :D I can't wait Sam. I'll see you Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciladog Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 Do you work the billet down from the end you have the bar welded to or from the tip back to the bar, or doesn't it really matter so long as you work one way only? I work to the bar, not from the bar. Check out the pics in post #26. I do that because sometimes if you work from the bar the chain starts to break apart at the other end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Lodge Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I work to the bar, not from the bar. Check out the pics in post #26. I do that because sometimes if you work from the bar the chain starts to break apart at the other end. Thanks for clearing this up. I am far away from anything like this, but it's something to keep in mind as I'd like to work my way to doing Damascus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel.85 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Very inspiring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciladog Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Very inspiring! Go for it. It is easier then you think. After you flux, heat until you start to see sparks then forge with a very light hand until it all sticks together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciladog Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 I did a demo making a billet from saw chain at Peter Valley a few months ago and gave that billet to the infamous Sam Salvati to forge a knife from. I picked it up today while Sam was teaching his class on knife forging. According to Sam, this was not etched. The pattern is a result of polishing and heat treating.It is a beautiful execution and is razor sharp.Thank you Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 When Tai Goo was getting started in smithing, he made some pattern welded "executive paper weights." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadchunker Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Ciladog Thanks for the awesome thread, and that is one sexy hammer you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua.M Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I thinl it would be super cool to be ironic, and use chainsaw blages, to make a handsaw lol! lots of work though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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