antigoth24 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 so recently ive been making some basic bodkin points but im not entirely sure if the edges of the socket should overlap or not...any ideas? and for making swallowtail broadheads i have several ideas about how to make them but do you guys know the historically accurate way of making them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belargehair Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I think, being a disposable item, the edges may have just been butted, and not overlapped. But I am no expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 When they are overlapped they were welded---I have an original renaissance quarrel point with a welded socket along the edges. The corrosion shows it very well. or to put it differently: pretty much any way you can think of was used sometime somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loenja Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 i wouldnt worry too much if they overlap just thin them out to be even with the rest, i dont think that it is necessary to weld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo33 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Google "Hector Cole Arrowsmith". I think that he does the best work that I've seen with arrowheads. I'm sure his reproductions are historically accurate too. He is a true master. There is some stuff on youtube, but most of it is not good quality work. This link might work as well. http://www.evado.co.uk/Hector%20Cole/index.html Leo33- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan W Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Visited the site that Leo33 linked to. I was more facinated with the arrow head extractor than the arrow heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstermetal Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Visited the site that Leo33 linked to. I was more facinated with the arrow head extractor than the arrow heads. I read the article about the extractor... was there a photo? I couldn't seem to find it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo33 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Yeah, here is the image for the "Arrowhead extractor" from Hector Cole's site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maillemaker Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I have been doing some looking around on the web (not that it's the most reliable source ever) and on this forum, and I can't seem to find how medieval arrowheads were attached to the shafts. There are plenty of resources on forging the heads, but not much on attaching them. Could I pin them like a hilt for a knife? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Steinkirchner Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 ive read that pitch was used to secure the heads, but also that wax would sometimes be used so that the arrowheads would release from the shaft when the enemy tried to pull it out. i would think resin or pitch was used. although if you want to use them nowadays, i'd use epoxy, super glue, or even gorilla glue. the place i would look is primitivearcher.com i would think it would be something easy to make and use, since arrows needed to be made in volumes and fairly cheaply. Ed Steinkirchner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I wrote to Hector and asked about the socket. He says they were overlapped but not welded. Just said it was too thin, and I would guess too time consuming for mass production. Still haven't heard a good answer about how the broadpoints were constructed. All that Hector said is that they were 2 parts and forge welded, but no description of how they went together. Just welded from one side? Split and the broadhead slid in and welded? Any knowledge about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I have a Kekoman calender form the 70's and it has some very fine photographs of Japanese armour and one of the months has arrrowheads and it seems the Japanese smiths used mostly tanged arrowheads. I also have a book that has a couple of pages of Roman era arrowheads and it seems that a good many of them were also tanged except those from the Greeks. It seems that the one or two that were from the north of France or the south of Germany were socketed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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