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I have a 60 ton, 2 cylinder hydraulic forging press (you might have seen it on YouTube) and would love to have the control of a limit switch. Does anyone know what to buy and how to set one up?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Randy McDaniel

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I would mount a normally closed limit switch on an adjustable rod that would open as the rams came up to the point it was set to, stopping the pump motor. A normally open switch would be linked to the reverse foot lever so when the lever was fully depressed the pump motor would re-start and reverse the rams. The two limit switches would control a magnetic contactor/starter which you may already use on the motor.

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You could use a pilot operated check valve, whereby you have a valve mounted somewhere on your press that is accuated by an adjustable length rod. This valve (normally closed) when opened allows hyd pressure to flow to the pilot operated valve which is in your main hyd lines going to the back of your pushing cylinders. Opening the pilot operated valve allows the oil to dump straight back to the oil reservoir.
There are other ways to limit stroke such as using wobbly plate variable stroke pumps controlled electronically as we have installed on our Davy press, but these sort of components cost in the $10000s/$100000s. The Davy works by having a sender unit in end of the hyd cylinder that senses where the piston head is and sends that info back to the control console which is all electronically actuated. The press speed and direction is controlled by the electrics varying the stroke and direction of the pump.

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Ironwolf you are leaving me hanging! What was the trick??? How'd he do it? That's what I'm looking for.

Thanks for the other replies, but I'm looking for more detailed info for someone who has no clue on how to do this and no idea what switches you are referring to or where to get them and how to hook them up. Sorry guys I'm a newbie when it comes to limit switches.

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Limit switches can be used, you'll need a solenoid valve to shift the hydraulics. Careful! Some solenoid valves just move a little plot valve and use hydraulic pressure to move the shuttle. That requires a certain back-pressure on the line so there is always pressure to operate the valve. They do make direct acting solenoid valves, however, and that would work better for you. You could put it in after your manual valve so that the press would act normal until it hit the limit switch. Then it would reverse until it hit another limit (up) switch that would send it back down. All the while you could stop it or reverse it manually. Probably need a couple of check valves to make it work with two valves, need to plot the different "states". Let me know when you get a little further along and we could do a schematic.

You will get some variation with differing resistance like size of billet and temperature of billet.

I can't imaging turning the pump off and on. I also don't think you would want to be "dead-ending" the cylinders either.

That's a pretty nice press you built. Where did you get the cylinders?

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Thanks, Grant. I'm starting to get a better picture of how this works. I didn't design or build my press, but bought it 90% finished and completed the build. He has 3 presses in his shop and just didn't finish this one. We have a company near here that buys out shops and businesses direct or through auctions, it's stuff is too good to call a junk or scrap yard. I guess they call it an industrial surplus and salvage company. Any way that's where the clyinders came from. He buys them there and then takes them to a hydraulics company to cut them to size and rebuild them.

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