Frosty Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 In some ways a thermometer is better, FAR more accurate for one. However, the less you have to rely on aids the less likely you'll be up a creek without a paddle if the batteries go dead. Another thing, you don't really care about being more accurate than 50-100*f and a 100* difference is pretty evident with practice. There really isn't a need to be terribly accurate in general smithing. If you do need that kind of accuracy you aren't going to be doing it in a coal of propane forge, you'll be using a controlled temperature furnace. The IR thermometers only read the surface so you're left to estimate internal temps just like doing it by eye. So, if you're forging or heat treating a very temperature critical alloy you MUST control the temp in the furnace. Frosty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aral Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 I was just wondering for general blacksmithing, not something extraordinary I'll use the thermometer at first, to better grasp the differences between colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aral Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 So, guys, obviously i have decided my first project would be a pair of tongs, ill keep trying until i get a good ones if that doesn't go so well from the start But, what do you suggest as a second piece? I would like something useful, not necesarily for blacksmithing, just something that can be used, since i am motivated by making something I/someone can use, and not just by making it so it can collect dust around :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_leland Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 punches, and chisles are always handy, plus it will help with your tech. for hammering. If you want to get fancy start some scroll work.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaylan veater Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 When I taught some boy scouts we made tongs to hold 1/4'' round then when took some 1/4'' round about 6'' long tapered the ends the bent the ends over the horn mades some s hooks. They loved it and went home to talk about what they had learned and made. But most important is to make things that you may need, wall hooks, door pull handles drive hooks for hanging things on walls etc.That is what blacksmiths do is make things that you or other people need. Gaylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aral Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Thanks for the input guys :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Aral there are markers that melt at diffrent temps they range from 100 to 1000 degrees in 10 degree incroments most welding supplyers can get them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yea3114u Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Aral, tongs were my first project too. Just don't get discouraged when your first jaw looks like a pile of poop. As long as you learned something from that first ugly jaw, your next jaw can only be better. Of course to finish the tongs I needed a punch and rivet so inherently i made a punch and a die for making rivets. i think once u get going you will find projects just start breeding themselves. good luck in your endeavors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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