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downloaded freecad and have spent a long time trying things, had something simple to draw and on the 4th attempt got it not bad but im spending hours trying to find things for the most basic drawing in there. maybe I should hunt down something simpler.... I dont need all the architecture stuff or ship building dont need 3D as it is for getting things laser cut from flat plate need to draw points and join them, rectangles, squares, radiuses, circles and ellipses, stretch things maybe, need to know the coordinates and dimensions im creating and need to be able to save as a DXF. anyone know what is the simplest and easiest to learn (and ideally free) thing I can get to do the job before my head explodes have also asked a few friends to look into this and if I get suggestions in other places I will repost them here just in case others are have the same problems