rawtiron

On 12/22/2014 at 5:46 AM, Alan Evans said:

In that case maybe don't bother to remove the key. I can't remember where but years ago I saw someone with a similar problem had taken out the outer windings of the motor and cut a hole through the side of the motor casing in order to run a flat belt around the armature…

Thanks Alan, I was just going to sit it under the bench (because it would look good under there with the all the other treasures that don't take up much space and will be useful one day).
I'll spend some more time on it this weekend now the work for the galleries will quieten off for a while.
Jason

mine was spotless when i opened the backplate too...
it looked brand new and it had been standing in an open shed for a good 20 years...
all i had to do was put some fresh oil in and it runs like a dream...
more to follow in the thread i started a while back...
so lazy when it comes to video and pics...
ill give you a bell if you are around palmie from the 27th - 29th dec rawtiron...

Hi Mike,

I'll be working through but home after 6pm.
Keep in touch

Jason

 
Do you need to get the key out? It has the cam operated oil system so the bearings should not have been run dry, mine were fine.
 
Alan

No, just the key on the motor to get the gear off.
I think I'll leave the flywheel where it is as long as the bottom end is ok.

Jason

Hi Alan,
I'll keep that in mind with the oiler extension tube and will be pulling the back plate off this week for a look.
I've got the motor with the tufnel gear on it so my thoughts were to stick it on the lay shaft with a belt pulley on the other end for the engine.
How many donkeys do you think I'm going to need? I thought 20-30.
And how may rpm do these motors run at?
I was thinking about mounting it on a pivot at one end and a bottle jack at the other to lower it and tension the drive belts once running.
But who knows where this will end up, maybe a clutch?

Any ideas on getting the key out of the shaft? I was thinking of a wedge maybe but it's real tight.
I could tig a nut on it and use a slide hammer.

How old do you think this is? There's no tag on the motor and the hammer has 'c330' stamped on the front of it.
Jason

I'd say that once I dig the hole for this, I won't be moving for a while, so let me know when you're making the trip.

This arrived at my place the other day.

Thanks Alan, Owen, Phil and MikeyP for your input and advice.

The guy I bought it off got it with a pile of other stuff and sold off what he didn't want, so I got it for scrap value and had to get it transported from 200km away.

It's been out in the weather for years but so far everything is freeing up ok with penetrating oil and a little encouragement.

It's nice to see grease/oil on all the nut and bolt threads. I removed the decompression valve today (Which is understandably seized closed) and no water has got into the piston/liner area, it looks to be really clean with just some black grease type film in there.

I bought this as a longish term project but we'll see how that pans out.

The only missing pieces are the motor mount and the cap off the oiler reservoir (which must've got lost when the guy moved to his place as the oil looks remarkably clean).

I'm looking at maybe running this off a petrol or diesel engine (so would appreciate any advice on that) as I don't have 3 phase to the property and it will be under a roof outside of the main shop as it's built on a suspended concrete slab with 27 driven piles and load of steel holding it in place.

I'll add more photos as I go.

For some reason these photos are not in the order they were upload.

Jason

 

Hey Matt,
Here's a couple of links. I googled selectron c248 and they were on the 2nd page on my phone. 1 said 4 ton but the site is down at the moment. Search Selectron fly press, Selectron screw press, fabricated fly press, fabricated screws press and steel fly and screw press. There are other Selectrons there but bigger, all of them have been with Greys online. I found all this when trying to find out what breed my fabricated fly press is.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17997708
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17989227
I've got some photos of one that looks the same as yours if you want them just pm me.
Jason

Thanks for the info Bruce. It's a beauty!! The day after I bought this one I ended up picking up a John Heine 186a series 1 6 ton fly press for $150. They both run the 2 inch cap set up which is great. Just mucking around setting them up with some tooling now. The only other fabricated ones that I have seen on the net are made by Selectron industries in Aus. But they look a bit different to this one.
Jason

Good Stuff Boys

Thank you for that. I'll PM you over the weekend. The owner is holding it for me for a couple of weeks, so I can get up there to look at it.

Jason

Well I got them to send some more pics as I noticed some damage when looking at it closer. Turns out to be a nice crack at the bottom of the ram. They won't drop the price any so I'll give it a miss.
What about this other one?
They don't know the capacity or who made it but it has a 2inch screw and travels 58mm per revolution. They reckon it weighs 300-400kg.
The only thing is that it is not a solid frame like most I've seen, but a steel frame. I'm waiting on some more pics.
What do you all think?

Thanks, Jason

Thank you all for your input. It will be arriving at my place at the end of the month. Turns out they were manufactured here some years back
Jason

Any ideas on the size of this? The brand is 'Beere'. They say approx 3 ton but as there is no ID plate it's hard to tell. What do you think?http://www.machine.co.nz/index.php?search=Fly+press
Thanks for your input.

Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.
It has a 1 stamped on it.
Please read the above post for the rest of the details.
Tried it out with some mild steel fullering dies and it works a treat. I'll now make a stand and some decent tooling for it.

Thanks, Jason

Got it home ok, and will post some pics this weekend.
It weighs 66kg and stands about 600mm high, closed.
The ram moves about 2.5 inches per revolution.
Not too sure about how heavy the weights need to be though, and if the thread is going to be too fast. Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks, Jason

I'm picking it up next weekend. Will post some pics when I get it home.
Thank you.

What do you think? The price is right and it's a 2 hour drive. The dimensions are at the bottom of the page. Is it big enough for blacksmithing work though? These are not too common over here. Thanks for the advice.

Jason

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=405688121

Nice work Rory. I love seeing visions/drawings come to life.

Jason

How are you people over there going with all that rain and flooding? I am sad to hear today that some lives have been lost.
My thoughts are with you all.

Jason

Very nice work!!
Jason

Lovely work Beth!! And a nice looking workshop.
Did you paint or powder coat it?
Jason

Good on ya Dave!! Nice job.
Jason

Awesome Sam!! Nice job.
Jason

Great work!! I really like it.
Jason